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The Cybertruck Appears to Be More Deadly Than the Infamous Ford Pinto, According to a New Analysis

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  • D [email protected]

    Blowing up rockets until it works is a far better approach than trying to get everything to work on the first try and ending up with a hugely overpriced white elephant.

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    Sure, if it was cheaper than just doing it correctly the first time which it's not

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    • G [email protected]

      I look at the cartoon from Byrnes and it reminds me of the US healthcare system.

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      ¿Por qué no las dos?

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      • A [email protected]

        To be fair, you made a good point. In the article it states pretty definitively that the NHTSA hasn't been allowed to have the Cybertruck independently crash tested which is bogus as hell.

        The fact that it can't force that from any car manufacturer doesn't really make sense. They haven't even received relevant data related to Tesla's in house crash testing and I can't even begin to understand how that's legal.

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        They will be neutered even further soon, they're on the project 2025 list.

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        • x00z@lemmy.worldX [email protected]

          Normally I don't point it out. But this one was just too much.

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          You just literally said (interpretive paraphrasing),
          "I like big butts and I cannot lie"

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          • F [email protected]

            Hackey, but I guess some plastic would be enough to stop metal on metal contact and prevent sparks?

            Not that my Miata "temporarily" has cardboard wrapped in tape wrapped around the cold air intake pipe to prevent it from rubbing against the frame. Nope, definitely not.

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            My challenger's whole plastic front end is connected with zip ties at this point. Those pathetic plastic clips they use just break apart if you try to work on them. I realize my solution to preventing plastic dragging on the road is less important than preventing metal on metal contact though.

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              No. Shit. Sherlock.

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              • F [email protected]
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                i knew it!

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                • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                  They can just buy a used one since the value of these fucking hunks of junk drops dramatically once its driven at all.

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                  I read a reddit post recently by a guy who had bought one for $135K after shelling out $50K to a broker to find him one. He was wanting to sell but couldn't get more than $70K for it lol.

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                  • T [email protected]

                    I don't know. I'm not sure I've seen or encountered strong pro cyber truck sentiment. Maybe a bit of online excitement for like a day when they were first rolling out but now it's been a laughing stock.

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                    I'm a school bus driver - kids love the things and go apeshit whenever they see one. Fortunately, not many elementary school kids can afford one.

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                      The bolts on the back of the diff would puncture the fuel tank, so it would help with both.

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                      • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                        Reads like clickbait. There's 34K Cybetrucks, so the actual number of fire fatalities is rounded to 5, one of which is the trumptower guy (so 20% is already intentional). Not that these are encouraging numbers, but you can't draw conclusions from an N of 4.

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                        You can draw conclusions because there's only 35,000 on the road. That is a terrible rate.

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                        • T [email protected]

                          Sure, if it was cheaper than just doing it correctly the first time which it's not

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                          How do you do something "correctly" when nobody knows what that is? If your main priority is to do it "correctly" you will never develop anything fundamentally new.

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                          • Y [email protected]

                            I love Elon Bad posts, but I think it's worthwhile to examine why Elon bad in this case.

                            Like many reactionaries, Elon's business philosophy is pure tech-bro-libertarianism. And like all libertarians, he's stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don't scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap), in order to create the safe space that industrialists need to extract, er create.

                            He's literally said things like (paraphrasing)

                            When I see a specification for three bolts I ask: why can't we do it with two?

                            His transparent reasoning is that if he's allowed to cut corners, he'll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

                            He's following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

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                            There's nothing inherently wrong with a simplification mindset. Automotive manufacturers certainly do like to overcomplicate things. Unfortunately people like him only care about costs and not quality.

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                            • drbob@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                              You can draw conclusions because there's only 35,000 on the road. That is a terrible rate.

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                              that's how confirmation bias works, not statistical probabilities.

                              EM's still a nazi and the CT is a horrible joke, but this is still insufficient data.

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                                Cybertruck will have 14.52 fatalities per 100,000 units — far eclipsing the Pinto’s 0.85.

                                Holy shit, that means the Cybertruck fatality rate is around 17 times higher than the Pinto's!

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  It's barely sold outside the US because other places (like the EU) also care about the safety of people outside the vehicle. That's why European and Asian cars (except the models explicitly for the US market like the Tacoma) are designed for pedestrians to be deflected, while US cars are a moving brick wall which will squish them like a bug.

                                  Also, I suspect you'd need commercial plates and a special license to drive it most other places, due to the weight.

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                                  Do you have a reasonable alternative solution to teach pedestrians lessons?

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                                  • Y [email protected]

                                    I love Elon Bad posts, but I think it's worthwhile to examine why Elon bad in this case.

                                    Like many reactionaries, Elon's business philosophy is pure tech-bro-libertarianism. And like all libertarians, he's stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don't scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap), in order to create the safe space that industrialists need to extract, er create.

                                    He's literally said things like (paraphrasing)

                                    When I see a specification for three bolts I ask: why can't we do it with two?

                                    His transparent reasoning is that if he's allowed to cut corners, he'll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

                                    He's following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

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                                    An MVP should not be a beta version, but fully functional and bug-free. The idea is to reduce scope to not necessarily even release it (though that's possible) but to have a solid foundation onto which to duct-tape bells and whistles.

                                    The MVP of a car doesn't have heated seats, heck the seats might not even be adjustable without a wrench, but it's absolutely going to drive and drive well and be crash-safe. Because if it doesn't it's nowhere close to being a viable car, go back and fix that before spending time on those seats.

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                                      Can we like, mark this as NSFW?

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        Do you have a reasonable alternative solution to teach pedestrians lessons?

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                                        Pedestrians would probably learn more from the experience if they don't die.

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                                        • J [email protected]

                                          Is it me or are there guts in this picture?

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                                          Looks like it 🤢

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