In light of recent events, here's OpenStreetMap editors discussing naming of the Gulf of Mexico
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I'm hoping that my comment doesn't age like milk
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Fun fact, per the executive order, the whole body isn't being renamed the Gulf of America, only the "U.S. Continental Shelf area bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the States of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba". That is, less than the northern half, as indicated in this map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_ECS_Regions_2023.png
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Gul;f of Musk
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But you couldn't tell, could you.
I'm keeping this joke alive as long as I can, until Trump gets wind of it and actually does it.
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So now that is on the hands of the folks who use the OSM data. It's in a somewhat exotic tag, so by default any map that uses OSM will show Gulf of Mexico, unless they actively intervene to show Gulf of America. So if you see an OSM based map showing the latter, you know they made that choice consciously.
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I just checked, and OSM has it as Persian Gulf, with the alternative name Arabian Gulf.
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"Petition to rename New Mexico to Freexico, and Mexico to Cartelistan"
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The maintainers were doing a good job reverting contributions for a while. Here's a good example: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/16
They follow names assigned by https://unstats.un.org/unsd/ungegn/, and use the labels like
en_US
for official single-country names. While I would much prefer it remain analt_name
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Yeah I feel like there needs to be a huge asterisk by name declarations that, while formal/official in the barest sense, are blatantly arbitrary.
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How is it the "official name" even for en-US? Trump isn't the be all and end all of naming things. Every single rational, thinking person in the USA, and many, many people who aren't so rational (Trump voters), still call it the Gulf of Mexico and always will. Official, my ass.
The early proposal of alt-name: en-US=Gulf of America seemed the most logical.
Holy hell, I hate this cursed timeline.
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A checkbox labelled "Triggered" on the phone.
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Because the United States Board on Geographic Names now says so, as demanded by the Trump by Order No. 3423. They are the government body that defines what places are officially called.
But unless you are a US federal employee, as Nick Fury once said, "I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it."
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How about Gulf of they/them?
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To reiterate, GNIS and GNS are only relevant to an appropriately qualified official_name tag, not a name tag, because of the on the ground rule. For this kind of feature, common sense would place a lot of weight on overall common usage, since sending someone to survey the facts “on the ground” would be… difficult.
Yeah that certainly seems difficult