Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.
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Not quite.
DuckDuckGo's results are a compilation of "over 400" sources according to itself, including Bing, Yahoo! Search BOSS, Wolfram Alpha , Yandex, and its own web crawler (the DuckDuckBot); but none from Google. It also uses data from sites such as wikipedia, to populate knowledge panel boxes to the right of the search results.
Its main partnership is with Bing.
And this is why it's a problem: https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/17/brave_duckduckgo/
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I'm telling you this is what he wants: people to get all worked up and virtue signaling for MAGA
Ignoring my entire post is a choice, I'll give you that.
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It's a US company following US policy as it's a contract holder for the US Government they're compelled to follow US policy. Whether anyone likes it or not, at least for right now, US policy is that the Gulf of Mexico for all intents and purposes is the Gulf of America.
President Sheinbaum can sue Google all she wants, but there's no court that's going to find that a US company complying with US policy is breaking the law.
So you are gonna have to provide a source explaining how the president using an executive order to rename international water is "policy" that Google must follow.
They you'll have to explain why I, as a Canadian, have to see this stupid renaming in parentheses.
If the US truely doesn't have a system beyond "once the president orders it, it's renamed." That's their problem but I don't give a fuck what they call things and I don't know why google thinks I should.
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Its main partnership is with Bing.
And this is why it's a problem: https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/17/brave_duckduckgo/
It’s still preferable to vanilla bing and google because the privacy is stronger and it produces useful results. There is no perfect search engine, right now we have to compromise.
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have we (the human race) ever been to this point before? where corporations are big enough to absorb whole countries and there's pretty much nobody who'll stand up to them?
The East India Company is the first example that comes to mind. I'm sure others.
I really don't think we are living through unprecedented times, unfortunately. People have sucked for as long as we've existed.
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I want to know how many of the people here defending Google's decision would be okay with Google labeling Taiwan as "Taiwan (Chinese Taipei)" for people in Taiwan and also the rest of the world.
Who should care about petty stuff .
Wether it's the orange clown trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the little unwashed cokehead making a point of calling Kiev Kiyv.
I'm surprised Google, that is100% a US regime tool didn't rename that Chinese province already. -
Ignoring my entire post is a choice, I'll give you that.
And I'm saying it's just a name. Call it whatever you want. He means it as a distraction. There's more important things
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TIL…
The abbreviation E.E.U.U. (often written as EE. UU.) stands for Estados Unidos (United States) in Spanish. This abbreviation follows a grammatical rule in Spanish where doubling the initial letters of each word indicates plurality
So you taught me something today I did not know. Thank you!!
See, I learned this in Spanish class in my American high school, and I don't think that linguistic fact stuck with me! Thanks
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I'd much rather they make California the 13th province.
California should rather join Denmark.
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Nah. I'll start boycotting google when there are useful alternatives. Amazon, facebook, reddit - no problem.
Google search - fine, I can get by with DDG or Yandex. Gmail - sure, whatever. Maps? Organic Maps (and other openstreetmaps front-ends) works alright for getting your bearings, but it's a far cry from useful for finding businesses, and terrible for navigation. Waze used to be the only viable alternative, but ever since Google bought them, it's hard to justify a full boycott without massively inconveniencing myself.
Same for meta as a whole. Facebook and Instagram, sure, no need. But living without whatsapp is simply impossible in some countries, where it's the de-facto standard for communication, and even used as the only means of contact with government agencies.
If you disapprove of internet companies caving to authoritarian politics, I have bad news for you about Yandex
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I thought it was called North America?
Yeah, "America".
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And I'm saying it's just a name. Call it whatever you want. He means it as a distraction. There's more important things
Still ignoring what I wrote.
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Who should care about petty stuff .
Wether it's the orange clown trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the little unwashed cokehead making a point of calling Kiev Kiyv.
I'm surprised Google, that is100% a US regime tool didn't rename that Chinese province already.Did you really just call Taiwan a Chinese province?
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Still ignoring what I wrote.
I'm not ignoring it. I'm saying it's just a name. I will continue to call it the Gulf of Mexico for the rest of my life, or probably just "the Gulf". I never used another term for French fries, # is still a pound sign, and I'm not going to worry about this.
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Alternatives are just not good enough
And to no fault of their own of course. They just aren't working with the same resources as Google and the others.
I think it's more a question of stepping down our level of comfort at this point. Can we live without a particular service that Google provides, when there are no alternatives with feature parity? Or can we live with the fact that some of the features aren't working as well or missing, and use the alternatives anyway?
Yeah, I still find it impressive how good mastodon and lemmy are given the limitations.
For sure, and that is possible for personal things, but for social things it’s almost impossible to live without some features.
People don’t want to step down their level of comfort when it comes to WhatsApp (where I live people don’t use SMS because they’re limited), so you’re forced to either keep your contacts (which includes family) or move to signal/threema/session/matrix/etc. But have no one to talk to
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Nah. I'll start boycotting google when there are useful alternatives. Amazon, facebook, reddit - no problem.
Google search - fine, I can get by with DDG or Yandex. Gmail - sure, whatever. Maps? Organic Maps (and other openstreetmaps front-ends) works alright for getting your bearings, but it's a far cry from useful for finding businesses, and terrible for navigation. Waze used to be the only viable alternative, but ever since Google bought them, it's hard to justify a full boycott without massively inconveniencing myself.
Same for meta as a whole. Facebook and Instagram, sure, no need. But living without whatsapp is simply impossible in some countries, where it's the de-facto standard for communication, and even used as the only means of contact with government agencies.
We did it with Lemmy. It CAN be done!
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So you are gonna have to provide a source explaining how the president using an executive order to rename international water is "policy" that Google must follow.
They you'll have to explain why I, as a Canadian, have to see this stupid renaming in parentheses.
If the US truely doesn't have a system beyond "once the president orders it, it's renamed." That's their problem but I don't give a fuck what they call things and I don't know why google thinks I should.
So you are gonna have to provide a source explaining how the president using an executive order to rename international water is “policy” that Google must follow.
Exactly
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It's a US company following US policy as it's a contract holder for the US Government they're compelled to follow US policy. Whether anyone likes it or not, at least for right now, US policy is that the Gulf of Mexico for all intents and purposes is the Gulf of America.
President Sheinbaum can sue Google all she wants, but there's no court that's going to find that a US company complying with US policy is breaking the law.
It’s a US company following US policy as it’s a contract holder for the US Government they’re compelled to follow US policy. Whether anyone likes it or not, at least for right now, US policy is that the Gulf of Mexico for all intents and purposes is the Gulf of America.
We have a bunch of amendments...go look at the first.
I think you KNOW it's because Pichai was there and is part of that club now.
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So you are gonna have to provide a source explaining how the president using an executive order to rename international water is "policy" that Google must follow.
They you'll have to explain why I, as a Canadian, have to see this stupid renaming in parentheses.
If the US truely doesn't have a system beyond "once the president orders it, it's renamed." That's their problem but I don't give a fuck what they call things and I don't know why google thinks I should.
So you are gonna have to provide a source explaining how the president using an executive order to rename international water is “policy” that Google must follow.
It's the executive branch. It would be the same as if Congress did the same, and passed a law saying "The Gulf of Mexico is now the Gulf of America." There's no source required, it's literally how the US Government works, but if you want one; American University Law Review (2009) - The Limits of Executive Power:
The President has broad discretion in choosing how to exercise these implied powers. Second, these implied powers are not plenary in nature. They are subject to three basic limitations: (1) the President may not, without congressional authorization, use these powers to change domestic law or create or alter existing legal obligations; (2) these powers are subject to regulation by Congress; and (3) in the event of a conflict between the exercise of these powers and congressional legislation, the latter prevails.
There's no federal law establishing the name of the Gulf of Mexico, so there's no conflict with the first limitation. No one in Congress is willing to stop him, so no conflict with the second. And there's no conflict with existing congressional legislation, so there's no conflict with the third. So therefore the executive order is within the power of the executive branch.
Because Google is a US company and operates within the US, it has to follow US policy. The President just changed US policy to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico... So they either have to comply or be sued by the executive for not following US policy--which they'll lose.
They you’ll have to explain why I, as a Canadian, have to see this stupid renaming in parentheses.
Because again, Google is a US company. So if you want to see Gulf of Mexico again, use any map provider that isn't from a US company.
If the US truely doesn’t have a system beyond “once the president orders it, it’s renamed.”
That's an extreme oversimplification of what's going on here. But it kinda outlines how important it is to elect good people, huh?
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It’s a US company following US policy as it’s a contract holder for the US Government they’re compelled to follow US policy. Whether anyone likes it or not, at least for right now, US policy is that the Gulf of Mexico for all intents and purposes is the Gulf of America.
We have a bunch of amendments...go look at the first.
I think you KNOW it's because Pichai was there and is part of that club now.
The executive order doesn't conflict with anyone's freedom of speech... The President didn't release an executive order saying "no one is allowed to call it the Gulf of Mexico anymore!"
I'm not going to type it all out again, but here you go: https://lemm.ee/post/55471251/18276179
