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Difference between Github, Gitlab, Forgejo ?

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    Don't use github/gitlab for small private repositories! use codeberg.org if you are not a developer. If you are in need for a big more jazz and looking at self-hosting go for forgejo.

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    private

    Just make sure to read their FAQ

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      Windows people don't even know what git is, let alone version control. 😜

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        Just adding that GitLab self-host is an absolute nightmare, if anything goes wrong you are done. They include database in their 'package', so you have limited options.

        Also GitHub is usually used to distribute dependencies, so if your package gets downloaded 1M+ times, you don't have to pay for the traffic.

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        Found upgrades mildly annoying with GitLab, bug reason I moved to Forgejo for my personal stuff. Far easier to setup and maintain for me, seems to be happy with caddy and runners are really easy to setup.

        I'm not hosting for an entire org though, it's just me and I keep all my selfhost stuff local only, so obviously YMMV.

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          Another Difference in Linux question šŸ™‚

          I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

          I understand, that:

          • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
          • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

          Questions:

          • what software does github.com use?
          • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
          • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

          As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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          If you are a developer then no difference if you're a scrum master then you need to gtfo

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          • D [email protected]

            Don't use github/gitlab for small private repositories! use codeberg.org if you are not a developer. If you are in need for a big more jazz and looking at self-hosting go for forgejo.

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            Pretty sure codeberg.org uses forgejo under the hood.

            Another very solid option for self hosting is just adding a git user to a server with git installed, initiate bare repositories there, then talk to them with [email protected]:repo-name

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              Just adding that GitLab self-host is an absolute nightmare, if anything goes wrong you are done. They include database in their 'package', so you have limited options.

              Also GitHub is usually used to distribute dependencies, so if your package gets downloaded 1M+ times, you don't have to pay for the traffic.

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              Alternative experience here: I have managed 7 GitLab installs for the past 12 years, two of these having ~300 users and ~1000 repositories, and I update monthly on average. I have only had one update break in all that time, and it was because of starting another upgrade step without waiting for all of the background migrations to complete. GitLab support got us sorted out within a couple of hours. A great experience overall.

              There is a complexity floor, however. I use GitLab personally because of its CI/CD implementation. Upgrading it requires some care because it's a large and complex project. You have to read the errata and use the upgrade planner.

              For small installations with a few users, and if there is no CI/CD preference, Forejo is probably the better choice for maintenance simplicity.

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                Forgejo. ♄

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                Can Forgejo do ci/cd pipelines by chance?

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                • semperverus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  Can Forgejo do ci/cd pipelines by chance?

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                  Yes, but haven't tried yet

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Another Difference in Linux question šŸ™‚

                    I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

                    I understand, that:

                    • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
                    • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

                    Questions:

                    • what software does github.com use?
                    • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
                    • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

                    As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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                    Gitlab pipelines are super nice to use and integrate nicely with merge requests.

                    I like the Github UI, clean and simple, but down like what comes along with it…

                    Interested in self hosting forejo but I’m mostly coding at work these days.

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                    • semperverus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      Can Forgejo do ci/cd pipelines by chance?

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                      Yes.

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                        Another Difference in Linux question šŸ™‚

                        I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

                        I understand, that:

                        • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
                        • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

                        Questions:

                        • what software does github.com use?
                        • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
                        • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

                        As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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                        In the same order you asked:

                        Safe, easy to use, polished and reliable ; Someone else tried to emulate the first one success ; Poorly executed open-source alternative you can selfhost.

                        All of them speak the git and are essentially web UIs made to manage it and the creation of repositories and setting up permissions.

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                          Another Difference in Linux question šŸ™‚

                          I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

                          I understand, that:

                          • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
                          • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

                          Questions:

                          • what software does github.com use?
                          • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
                          • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

                          As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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                          Git is the underlying code management and version control system. It can be used directly, and also forms the backend to a number of other systems.

                          Code "forges" are platforms which integrate a version control system (like git), a code repository (a file server), and front end utilities.

                          Some git forges are open source, others are proprietary. Certainly with the open source ones, but also with the proprietary ones in some cases, you can either self-host or use a hosted service.

                          GitHub is a proprietary forge, X GitHub.com is the company's fully hosted service. They're now owned by Microsoft.

                          Gitlab is an open source forge. Gitlab.com offers a hosted service, but many projects self-host.

                          Forgejo is a fork of Gitea which is a fork of Gogs. These are all also open source. As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                          A few other notable forges include GNU Savannah (open source), Bitbucket (proprietary), Sourceforge (proprietary), Launchpad (open source), Allura (open source).

                          At the end of the day, they all do the same thing. They have different feature lists (especially around some of the project management and user interaction side), different user interfaces (some are shinier and more modern, others more minimalist), and different communities and support models. You choose that one that works best for your needs.

                          GitHub is probably the most feature-rich (and/or bloated) of them. GitLab is competing in the same space, and self-hosted GitLab seems to be something of a sweet spot for many projects that want a premium experience without needing to use a proprietary Microsoft product. I don't have much experience with Forgejo or Gitea. The rest tend to exist in their niches.

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                            Another Difference in Linux question šŸ™‚

                            I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

                            I understand, that:

                            • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
                            • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

                            Questions:

                            • what software does github.com use?
                            • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
                            • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

                            As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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                            For something super lightweight you can try https://pr.pico.sh/

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                              Git is the underlying code management and version control system. It can be used directly, and also forms the backend to a number of other systems.

                              Code "forges" are platforms which integrate a version control system (like git), a code repository (a file server), and front end utilities.

                              Some git forges are open source, others are proprietary. Certainly with the open source ones, but also with the proprietary ones in some cases, you can either self-host or use a hosted service.

                              GitHub is a proprietary forge, X GitHub.com is the company's fully hosted service. They're now owned by Microsoft.

                              Gitlab is an open source forge. Gitlab.com offers a hosted service, but many projects self-host.

                              Forgejo is a fork of Gitea which is a fork of Gogs. These are all also open source. As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                              A few other notable forges include GNU Savannah (open source), Bitbucket (proprietary), Sourceforge (proprietary), Launchpad (open source), Allura (open source).

                              At the end of the day, they all do the same thing. They have different feature lists (especially around some of the project management and user interaction side), different user interfaces (some are shinier and more modern, others more minimalist), and different communities and support models. You choose that one that works best for your needs.

                              GitHub is probably the most feature-rich (and/or bloated) of them. GitLab is competing in the same space, and self-hosted GitLab seems to be something of a sweet spot for many projects that want a premium experience without needing to use a proprietary Microsoft product. I don't have much experience with Forgejo or Gitea. The rest tend to exist in their niches.

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                              GitLab is open core, not open source. It is also a publicly-traded company in the US that does have shareholder obligations—which should cause some sort of long-term hesitation. It does have a better CI/CD system than the Microsoft product & the community edition can be self-hosted.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Another Difference in Linux question šŸ™‚

                                I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

                                I understand, that:

                                • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
                                • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

                                Questions:

                                • what software does github.com use?
                                • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
                                • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

                                As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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                                Note that Git also isn’t the only distributed version control system (DVCS); there maybe be other alternatives out there for you not just in code forge but the system underneath it too.

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                                  Git is the underlying code management and version control system. It can be used directly, and also forms the backend to a number of other systems.

                                  Code "forges" are platforms which integrate a version control system (like git), a code repository (a file server), and front end utilities.

                                  Some git forges are open source, others are proprietary. Certainly with the open source ones, but also with the proprietary ones in some cases, you can either self-host or use a hosted service.

                                  GitHub is a proprietary forge, X GitHub.com is the company's fully hosted service. They're now owned by Microsoft.

                                  Gitlab is an open source forge. Gitlab.com offers a hosted service, but many projects self-host.

                                  Forgejo is a fork of Gitea which is a fork of Gogs. These are all also open source. As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                                  A few other notable forges include GNU Savannah (open source), Bitbucket (proprietary), Sourceforge (proprietary), Launchpad (open source), Allura (open source).

                                  At the end of the day, they all do the same thing. They have different feature lists (especially around some of the project management and user interaction side), different user interfaces (some are shinier and more modern, others more minimalist), and different communities and support models. You choose that one that works best for your needs.

                                  GitHub is probably the most feature-rich (and/or bloated) of them. GitLab is competing in the same space, and self-hosted GitLab seems to be something of a sweet spot for many projects that want a premium experience without needing to use a proprietary Microsoft product. I don't have much experience with Forgejo or Gitea. The rest tend to exist in their niches.

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                                  As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                                  Forgejo hosted version is https://codeberg.org/ which is my code forge of choice. I also have a self hosted private forgejo mirror of my public forgejo repos.

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                                    As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                                    Forgejo hosted version is https://codeberg.org/ which is my code forge of choice. I also have a self hosted private forgejo mirror of my public forgejo repos.

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                                    gittea is also a company now, forgejo is open and free, trully free

                                    other than codeberg disroot has been running forgejo too
                                    I wouldn't want to use anything but forgejo

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                                      gittea is also a company now, forgejo is open and free, trully free

                                      other than codeberg disroot has been running forgejo too
                                      I wouldn't want to use anything but forgejo

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                                      Truly free… yet in its fork of Gitea it is copying more Microsoft GitHub features like Action YAML spaghetti instead of offering an improvement. Instead of being a better offering than Microsoft, they are cloning even more features where it is even more of a hard sell IMO by not offering anything new in the experience.

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                                        Truly free… yet in its fork of Gitea it is copying more Microsoft GitHub features like Action YAML spaghetti instead of offering an improvement. Instead of being a better offering than Microsoft, they are cloning even more features where it is even more of a hard sell IMO by not offering anything new in the experience.

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                                        Even Codeberg is not running Forgejo Actions, which is saying something (it's super janky, many things just don't work)

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                                          Don't use github/gitlab for small private repositories! use codeberg.org if you are not a developer. If you are in need for a big more jazz and looking at self-hosting go for forgejo.

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                                          Could you please elaborate on why one should use Codeberg for private repos if one isn't a dev?

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