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Difference between Github, Gitlab, Forgejo ?

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  • semperverus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    Can Forgejo do ci/cd pipelines by chance?

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    Yes.

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      Another Difference in Linux question 🙂

      I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

      I understand, that:

      • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
      • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

      Questions:

      • what software does github.com use?
      • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
      • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

      As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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      In the same order you asked:

      Safe, easy to use, polished and reliable ; Someone else tried to emulate the first one success ; Poorly executed open-source alternative you can selfhost.

      All of them speak the git and are essentially web UIs made to manage it and the creation of repositories and setting up permissions.

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        Another Difference in Linux question 🙂

        I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

        I understand, that:

        • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
        • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

        Questions:

        • what software does github.com use?
        • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
        • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

        As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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        #36

        Git is the underlying code management and version control system. It can be used directly, and also forms the backend to a number of other systems.

        Code "forges" are platforms which integrate a version control system (like git), a code repository (a file server), and front end utilities.

        Some git forges are open source, others are proprietary. Certainly with the open source ones, but also with the proprietary ones in some cases, you can either self-host or use a hosted service.

        GitHub is a proprietary forge, X GitHub.com is the company's fully hosted service. They're now owned by Microsoft.

        Gitlab is an open source forge. Gitlab.com offers a hosted service, but many projects self-host.

        Forgejo is a fork of Gitea which is a fork of Gogs. These are all also open source. As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

        A few other notable forges include GNU Savannah (open source), Bitbucket (proprietary), Sourceforge (proprietary), Launchpad (open source), Allura (open source).

        At the end of the day, they all do the same thing. They have different feature lists (especially around some of the project management and user interaction side), different user interfaces (some are shinier and more modern, others more minimalist), and different communities and support models. You choose that one that works best for your needs.

        GitHub is probably the most feature-rich (and/or bloated) of them. GitLab is competing in the same space, and self-hosted GitLab seems to be something of a sweet spot for many projects that want a premium experience without needing to use a proprietary Microsoft product. I don't have much experience with Forgejo or Gitea. The rest tend to exist in their niches.

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        • D [email protected]

          Another Difference in Linux question 🙂

          I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

          I understand, that:

          • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
          • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

          Questions:

          • what software does github.com use?
          • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
          • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

          As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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          For something super lightweight you can try https://pr.pico.sh/

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            Git is the underlying code management and version control system. It can be used directly, and also forms the backend to a number of other systems.

            Code "forges" are platforms which integrate a version control system (like git), a code repository (a file server), and front end utilities.

            Some git forges are open source, others are proprietary. Certainly with the open source ones, but also with the proprietary ones in some cases, you can either self-host or use a hosted service.

            GitHub is a proprietary forge, X GitHub.com is the company's fully hosted service. They're now owned by Microsoft.

            Gitlab is an open source forge. Gitlab.com offers a hosted service, but many projects self-host.

            Forgejo is a fork of Gitea which is a fork of Gogs. These are all also open source. As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

            A few other notable forges include GNU Savannah (open source), Bitbucket (proprietary), Sourceforge (proprietary), Launchpad (open source), Allura (open source).

            At the end of the day, they all do the same thing. They have different feature lists (especially around some of the project management and user interaction side), different user interfaces (some are shinier and more modern, others more minimalist), and different communities and support models. You choose that one that works best for your needs.

            GitHub is probably the most feature-rich (and/or bloated) of them. GitLab is competing in the same space, and self-hosted GitLab seems to be something of a sweet spot for many projects that want a premium experience without needing to use a proprietary Microsoft product. I don't have much experience with Forgejo or Gitea. The rest tend to exist in their niches.

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            #38

            GitLab is open core, not open source. It is also a publicly-traded company in the US that does have shareholder obligations—which should cause some sort of long-term hesitation. It does have a better CI/CD system than the Microsoft product & the community edition can be self-hosted.

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              Another Difference in Linux question 🙂

              I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

              I understand, that:

              • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
              • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

              Questions:

              • what software does github.com use?
              • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
              • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

              As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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              Note that Git also isn’t the only distributed version control system (DVCS); there maybe be other alternatives out there for you not just in code forge but the system underneath it too.

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                Git is the underlying code management and version control system. It can be used directly, and also forms the backend to a number of other systems.

                Code "forges" are platforms which integrate a version control system (like git), a code repository (a file server), and front end utilities.

                Some git forges are open source, others are proprietary. Certainly with the open source ones, but also with the proprietary ones in some cases, you can either self-host or use a hosted service.

                GitHub is a proprietary forge, X GitHub.com is the company's fully hosted service. They're now owned by Microsoft.

                Gitlab is an open source forge. Gitlab.com offers a hosted service, but many projects self-host.

                Forgejo is a fork of Gitea which is a fork of Gogs. These are all also open source. As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                A few other notable forges include GNU Savannah (open source), Bitbucket (proprietary), Sourceforge (proprietary), Launchpad (open source), Allura (open source).

                At the end of the day, they all do the same thing. They have different feature lists (especially around some of the project management and user interaction side), different user interfaces (some are shinier and more modern, others more minimalist), and different communities and support models. You choose that one that works best for your needs.

                GitHub is probably the most feature-rich (and/or bloated) of them. GitLab is competing in the same space, and self-hosted GitLab seems to be something of a sweet spot for many projects that want a premium experience without needing to use a proprietary Microsoft product. I don't have much experience with Forgejo or Gitea. The rest tend to exist in their niches.

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                As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                Forgejo hosted version is https://codeberg.org/ which is my code forge of choice. I also have a self hosted private forgejo mirror of my public forgejo repos.

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                  As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                  Forgejo hosted version is https://codeberg.org/ which is my code forge of choice. I also have a self hosted private forgejo mirror of my public forgejo repos.

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                  gittea is also a company now, forgejo is open and free, trully free

                  other than codeberg disroot has been running forgejo too
                  I wouldn't want to use anything but forgejo

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                    gittea is also a company now, forgejo is open and free, trully free

                    other than codeberg disroot has been running forgejo too
                    I wouldn't want to use anything but forgejo

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                    Truly free… yet in its fork of Gitea it is copying more Microsoft GitHub features like Action YAML spaghetti instead of offering an improvement. Instead of being a better offering than Microsoft, they are cloning even more features where it is even more of a hard sell IMO by not offering anything new in the experience.

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                      Truly free… yet in its fork of Gitea it is copying more Microsoft GitHub features like Action YAML spaghetti instead of offering an improvement. Instead of being a better offering than Microsoft, they are cloning even more features where it is even more of a hard sell IMO by not offering anything new in the experience.

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                      Even Codeberg is not running Forgejo Actions, which is saying something (it's super janky, many things just don't work)

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                        Don't use github/gitlab for small private repositories! use codeberg.org if you are not a developer. If you are in need for a big more jazz and looking at self-hosting go for forgejo.

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                        Could you please elaborate on why one should use Codeberg for private repos if one isn't a dev?

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                          Truly free… yet in its fork of Gitea it is copying more Microsoft GitHub features like Action YAML spaghetti instead of offering an improvement. Instead of being a better offering than Microsoft, they are cloning even more features where it is even more of a hard sell IMO by not offering anything new in the experience.

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                          The difference with a small group of devs writing code and offering it free and corporate thugs treating coders like sponges to produce code is the lack of resources can be understood and forgiven.
                          Take a project like brave-nightly (browser fork of glugle-elechrom) there are 3-5-8 new releases a day, 8-6 Pacific US time, when they go home on Fri. the next release is Monday afternoon, the "free" coders usually begin work Friday night and end Monday at dawn!

                          Sure, corp.XYZ sends them an offer one day and buys their work and even offers them incentives to work for them, then it all goes down hill!

                          It ends up being as nasty racist and ethnocentric as kernel.org.com - us state dept fed and controlled

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                            Another Difference in Linux question 🙂

                            I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

                            I understand, that:

                            • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
                            • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

                            Questions:

                            • what software does github.com use?
                            • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
                            • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

                            As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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                            #46

                            I'm using gitea to host my code and store issues
                            I'm combining this with jenkins for CI/CD
                            push commit in gitea -> jenkins autostarts build/deploy -> commit status (build/deploy failed/ok) visible in gitea
                            All selfhosted with portainer and docker images on a hetzner server in finland but you can easily do it on a home-server too

                            pretty happy with this setup - I might have a look at forgejo iso gitea as it's more open source and I wasn't aware of it when I chose gitea a year ago

                            then again I'm pretty happy with my setup now

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Another Difference in Linux question 🙂

                              I often wonder, what exactly is the difference between this services?

                              I understand, that:

                              • github.com is a company, where as gitlab and forgejo are (softwares)?
                              • They all "manage/wrap/interface with" git?

                              Questions:

                              • what software does github.com use?
                              • whats the difference between them (pros/cons)?
                              • what about self-hosting? Possibilities/Preferences?

                              As always, thanks beforehand ****:)

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                              There is no difference in core of those services, all of them are visual interfaces for file versioning software called git. You can easily use git without any of these services. If you're starting to explore those technologies I personally recommend getting used to git and ssh. You can read more here on how to use git and ssh https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-Getting-Git-on-a-Server

                              Answers:

                              • Github was initially written in ruby.
                              • The difference is memory usage, complexity of depoyment, compatibility with github features, maintenence and community support.
                              • Self hosting depends on various factors like usage preferences, number of users, business requirements, budget, hosting machine processing power, and amount of time you want to spend for maintenence and learning the platform.
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                                As far as I know, neither Forgejo nor Gogs offer a hosted version, but Gitea does.

                                Forgejo hosted version is https://codeberg.org/ which is my code forge of choice. I also have a self hosted private forgejo mirror of my public forgejo repos.

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                                Forgejo hosted version is https://codeberg.org/ which is my code forge of choice

                                Same here and I'm happy with that

                                i've heard that they're quite hostile to piracy stuff , but it's also easy to self-host

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                                  Note that Git also isn’t the only distributed version control system (DVCS); there maybe be other alternatives out there for you not just in code forge but the system underneath it too.

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                                  Also, there is Jujutsu which is an alternative frontend to git

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                                    Also, there is Jujutsu which is an alternative frontend to git

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                                    Hardly. It has shackled itself to Git’s internal format. There are more innovative VCSs than it.

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                                    • cysioland@lemmygrad.mlC [email protected]

                                      Even Codeberg is not running Forgejo Actions, which is saying something (it's super janky, many things just don't work)

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                                      It is a fool’s errand to try to chase Microsoft like this—folks will demand compatibility with all their new Copilot-enhanced CI. Present something better please—this would entice users to leave.

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                                        It is a fool’s errand to try to chase Microsoft like this—folks will demand compatibility with all their new Copilot-enhanced CI. Present something better please—this would entice users to leave.

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                                        tbh do we even have a standard for an open CI/CD specification format?

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                                          tbh do we even have a standard for an open CI/CD specification format?

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                                          I don’t think so, but of any project they are in a position to actually propose it, implement it, & have folks actually use it & provide feedback

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