What are your thoughts on Louis Rossmann?
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From what I can remember, the LTX thing that Louis brought up was after Linus had apologized for and then they did a colab video where it seemed they buried the hatchet on the main channel in a video where Steve and Louis both called out Linus for not doing in regards to Honey. Louis bringing that up again felt like the cliche arguing with your wife that never fails to forget some little slight you did years ago.
It all seems like jealousy on the part of Steve's behalf especially since Linus was recently on the Tonight Show then Steve changed parts of his website to not claim to be a journalist and Louis buying into it hook line and sinker. Steve is better off staying in the investigative journalist role and Rossmann would do better not getting into youtuber drama.
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I tend to like him and the things he has to say. I like that he helps consumers be more conscious of the things they buy, and cautions against companies with bad practices (such as those that are closed sourced, or lock basic features behind paywalls, etc).
He strikes me as a little socially awkward himself, and maybe that manifests as his rage at some of these companies and situations; he could stand to take a breath every now and then. I really enjoyed his breakdown of the Honey scam and LTT.
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I don't follow either closely enough to make a rank list or anything.
In the same ballpark as some moments that Torvalds has apologized for. Milder than Torvald's worst, but also unrepentant, as far as I've seen.
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I don't view it as badly. He's probably overly defensive and paranoid and interprets some forms of criticism as attacks. But I do not see this as an argument against his competence or contributions to the project, or against using GrapheneOS altogether, at all. In fact, I even kind of like having someone paranoid as the head of a security-focused OS. Seems like a useful synergy to me.
Also, AFAIK the GrapheneOS project now also has others posting about the project, not just him alone. I think this was also a result of his "miscommunication" in the past.
Furthermore, the project is too important (there are almost zero high-security and high-privacy mobile OSes!) to escalate this into a problem. And furthermore again, there might also be parties involved who are ACTUALLY interested in attacking GrapheneOS and weakening its popularity, for their own gains. And so when your successful and also high-quality project is under regular attacks from various angles, you might get more paranoid and misinterpret some valid criticism as a result. Combine that with Rossman's over-dramatic nature and high reach, and someone paranoid like Daniel might take it the wrong way. And then communication spirals out of control into various escalations. At least that's how I interpret it. -
He’s probably overly defensive and paranoid and interprets some forms of criticism as attacks.
I think this was also a result of his “miscommunication” in the past
there might also be parties involved who are ACTUALLY interested in attacking GrapheneOS and weakening its popularity, for their own gains.
when your successful and also high-quality project is under regular attacks from various angles
Rossman’s over-dramatic nature and high reach
then communication spirals out of control into various escalations
You should actually look at any of the copious amounts of evidence that involve this conversation instead of just imagining what it might look like. There's really not much else to talk about until you do. Daniel has given us zero evidence to support his side, while in contrast there's a mountain of evidence against him.
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Linus asked to handle it privately to keep drama out of the tech space. Louis somehow decided it was a good idea to start massive drama instead of trying to resolve it quietly.
Steve using Louis to fire shots while pretending to be on the high ground and not responding publicly was also rather pathetic.
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He’s fine. His videos come off as a bit whiny. The stance of pirating content as being justified instead of just abstaining from an unsatisfactory service seems entitled to me but I get it. I think he’s mostly right in his analysis of things, I don’t make it through every video that he posts though
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He’s autistic, that’s why he’s socially awkward. It was mentioned in one of his videos a few years ago.
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The ones that are speaking out against him have all been removed, and I doubt YouTube would do that automatically. Found a very in depth comment on my TV but couldn't on 3 other devices.
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Clearly I missed that video. Thanks for letting me know! That makes his views and attitudes make a little more sense.
(I also didn't mean socially awkward as an insult or anything, I certainly have no room to talk)
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His board repair videos were outstanding. I don't especially enjoy his rants. He's usually right, but I don't really care to listen to how mad he is about it. I can get mad on my own.
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I’m socially awkward, but that’s probably just paranoia and PTSD from my time in the military.
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this tbh, I can understand how some might think Louis Rossmann is annoying, but for the most part what I notice is that he is a vocal advocate and we are lucky to have him, I'm a fan even if he's annoying.
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good, but man his videos on the SteamDeck are really over negative for no reason. For someone who really supports Linux he doesn't seem to much appreciate the thing getting Linux to mainstream popularity
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I think I agree with most comments here.
He's usually right and I agree with him, I just find him a little hard to watch. His videos are a bit long winded.
I 100% support him. I think his heart and mind are in the right place.
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I don't think there is such a thing as over-the-top with this issue. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. And we're already miles past that point.
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wow not a single mention of how he has a Kiwi Farms account in the comments here, surprising
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Ah yeah that's pretty solid evidence. My own experience has been with my own comments getting removed, and it happening far too quickly to be manual moderation. If you actually saw someone else's comment, and then noticed it gone, it's hard to call that anything other than a deliberate silencing of their viewpoint.
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We are allowed to guide the growth of things and show where they need work.
Didn't you people have report cards?
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Soo, what? Does he actively participate in harassment?
