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Microsoft Office support in Windows 10 ends in October too - what that really means

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    I really don’t like Microsoft, but the two products I think Microsoft got mostly right are Microsoft Office and Visual Studio. I really can’t find comparable products.

    Open office and forks feel like Microsoft Office 97. While usable, it takes me twice as long to do things. I would almost prefer to use a LaTeX editor over word. Excel? Idk

    From a business perspective, it doesn’t make sense to switch to libre office. W10 support also ends 10/25. It is highly irresponsible for an IT department to continue to use EOL products so they should be changing to W11 and new Microsoft office

    For individuals, I mean…. I just installed a W10 VM to give me more time to find a Linux compatible alternative to turbo tax and to use visual studio so idk

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    OneNote is honestly a really awesome product as well. Especially for use with a pen.

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    • melroy@kbin.melroy.orgM [email protected]

      yea who ever things that is a good idea, while we have MariaDB, PostgreSQL and Valkey should be fired.

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      I just don’t know how to use databases like those, so I just use excel for my small business.

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        Windows 10 will become unsupported but I still anticipate it working fine even without updates. I suspect office will work the same on existing machines.

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          I just don’t know how to use databases like those, so I just use excel for my small business.

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          Then pick one DB and learn about it. The internet is full of documentation, tutorial, hands-on examples and even youtube videos.

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            laughs in Office 2007 and laughs even harder in LibreOffice

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            I still install Office 2007 in older machines. It may not have the newest features but still does the job and it's enough for most people.

            Also, laughs harder-er in Google Workspace 😂😂😂

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            • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

              Or OnlyOffice. It lacks a lot of features but is an easier sell in a lot of cases because of the much more modern interface.

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              onlyoffice was on my list, but the privacy rating was a dealbreaker for me.

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                onlyoffice was on my list, but the privacy rating was a dealbreaker for me.

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                Wow, that's super disappointing but not incredibly surprising. The developers don't seem as transparent as other projects I've interacted with.

                I always install from their github, which I speculate (assume? hope?) does not include these trackers because they would be visible. Is there any way to reliably find out?

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                  To me it means letting people know that Mint is free and comes with Libre Office, also free.

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                  • K [email protected]

                    Windows 10 will become unsupported but I still anticipate it working fine even without updates. I suspect office will work the same on existing machines.

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                    You can safely use Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC or Windows 10 IoT LTSC perfectly safely until 2032--as that's when the LTSC will stop receiving updates.

                    But the versions will always work. They simply won't be protected against new threats or bugs.

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                      Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC and/or Windows 10 IoT LTSC end of life: 2032.

                      We good.

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                        I still install Office 2007 in older machines. It may not have the newest features but still does the job and it's enough for most people.

                        Also, laughs harder-er in Google Workspace 😂😂😂

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                        google workspace? why would you upload your (and others?) documents to google? that's no better than microsoftcs online office

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                        • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                          Wow, that's super disappointing but not incredibly surprising. The developers don't seem as transparent as other projects I've interacted with.

                          I always install from their github, which I speculate (assume? hope?) does not include these trackers because they would be visible. Is there any way to reliably find out?

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                          app manager can scan the APK for trackers and other program libraries. it won't work reliably though if the app has been obfuscated

                          https://f-droid.org/packages/io.github.muntashirakon.AppManager

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                          • H [email protected]

                            I really don’t like Microsoft, but the two products I think Microsoft got mostly right are Microsoft Office and Visual Studio. I really can’t find comparable products.

                            Open office and forks feel like Microsoft Office 97. While usable, it takes me twice as long to do things. I would almost prefer to use a LaTeX editor over word. Excel? Idk

                            From a business perspective, it doesn’t make sense to switch to libre office. W10 support also ends 10/25. It is highly irresponsible for an IT department to continue to use EOL products so they should be changing to W11 and new Microsoft office

                            For individuals, I mean…. I just installed a W10 VM to give me more time to find a Linux compatible alternative to turbo tax and to use visual studio so idk

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                            I hate every minute I need to use VS. Jetbrains IDEs work infinitely better for me

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                              To me it means letting people know that Mint is free and comes with Libre Office, also free.

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                              Works on MacOS too!

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                              • W [email protected]

                                I hate every minute I need to use VS. Jetbrains IDEs work infinitely better for me

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                                My experience was with C#. What’s your language and which IDE do you use?

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                                • melroy@kbin.melroy.orgM [email protected]

                                  Then pick one DB and learn about it. The internet is full of documentation, tutorial, hands-on examples and even youtube videos.

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                                  I know that I should, and I’m technical enough to understand it. But the point I was making is that many people are not even close to technically proficient to learning it.

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    My experience was with C#. What’s your language and which IDE do you use?

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                                    nowadays I use Java, Rust, Python, for these I use IDEA, RustRover and Pycharm. but when I used C# and C++, I didn't like VS, and instead used Reshaper and CLion

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                                      You can safely use Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC or Windows 10 IoT LTSC perfectly safely until 2032--as that's when the LTSC will stop receiving updates.

                                      But the versions will always work. They simply won't be protected against new threats or bugs.

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                                      You will continue to receive Windows Defender updates. I have a Windows 8.1 tablet that keeps updating Microsoft Defender antivirus. It's only used to connect to RTSP streams for music.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        It means it's time for businesses to figure out how to use LibreOffice

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                                        There is also only office looks modern behaves almost like Microsoft office.

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                                        • X [email protected]

                                          Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC and/or Windows 10 IoT LTSC end of life: 2032.

                                          We good.

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                                          Office is not supported on those platforms at all so won't make a difference to your support.

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