What is the most infuriating "is not a big deal" you have ever heard?
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When looking at firearm homicides specifically, in terms of raw numbers (not rate), the low point was 2014, during Obama's second term. It started to move upwards in '15 and '16, prior to Trump taking office, and continued increasing at the same pace through '17. We the first real sharp jump in '18, but then an equally sharp decline in '19, back to levels on par with Obama's last year in office. Interestingly, Biden's 2nd year as president (2022) had the most number of firearm homicides in, I dunno, 20-odd years?
We'd been on a long, downward trend in homicides since '92. It's not clear to me what caused the rate to begin to head back up. I don't think that Obama, Trump, or Biden can realistically be directly blamed for the bulk of it, although a small number of homicides at the margins might be more directly related to them (e.g., Trump encourages racial violence, and so a small number of homicide might be due to his tacit support). I don't think that it's directly related to economics either, because the economy that Obama inherited when he took office in 2009 had been wrecked by the housing bubble crash; it it was directly related to economics, then I would have thought that gun violence would be peaking around '09 or '10. I guess it could be a lagging indicator though?
Again, keep in mind that these are homicides, and not suicides. firearm suicides still make up the majority of deaths caused by firearms in the US.
OTOH, I understand what you mean about feeling less safe under Trump, even if there wasn't an immediate spike in gun homicides. I know a lot of people--esp. LGBTQ+ people--are feeling very unsafe with Trump in the White House right now, and I believe that they're right to feel unsafe and at-risk.
Oh hey, I appreciate the info! Seems I misremembered. I actually attempted to double check before posting but kept getting wildly different numbers from different sources.
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Legalize cannibalism
What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is not the matter of the state!
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Eating meat. It contributes 15-20% of the entire planets greenhouse gasses alone. And people do it just for pleasure. It's mindboggling.
What? Meat provide like 90% of my protein intake. What are you suggesting here? Stop living?
Oh yeah, you are doing fine just by eating vegetables. I don't.
And no, I don't eat meat to have pleasure. I eat it to live.
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What? Meat provide like 90% of my protein intake. What are you suggesting here? Stop living?
Oh yeah, you are doing fine just by eating vegetables. I don't.
And no, I don't eat meat to have pleasure. I eat it to live.
If you have non-meat alternatives that are within your means and provide the same nutritional value, and you still choose to eat meat on purpose, then it is for pleasure. But if you have a specific circumstance that is preventing you from switching to alternatives, then that's a different story.
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Pronouns. Especially bad when a 2SLGBTQIA+ person makes out like its not a big deal.
Its the most simple, base level thing you can do (using correct pronouns for someone etc). Doing it is not a big deal. Its very easy. But if you choose not to, despite how small of a deal it is, then you turn it into a very big deal.
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Eating meat. It contributes 15-20% of the entire planets greenhouse gasses alone. And people do it just for pleasure. It's mindboggling.
Some people would look at the oncoming environmental end of civilisation and go "ugh, another VEGAN trying to shove their ideology down my throat"
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Eating meat. It contributes 15-20% of the entire planets greenhouse gasses alone. And people do it just for pleasure. It's mindboggling.
but i have an extremely rare disease that forces me to eat dead animals, animals do it too, plants feel pain, a vegan was rude to me 10 years ago, and its not like me paying for farmers to kill animals and thus creating a demand for meat means i have a hand in it!!!!!!!!
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Oh hey, I appreciate the info! Seems I misremembered. I actually attempted to double check before posting but kept getting wildly different numbers from different sources.
It's all good. Firearms in general are an autistic special interest. (No, seriously. I'm high-functioning autistic, and guns have been a special interest for, um, a very long time.) I don't expect anyone outside of policy wonks to have hard numbers memorized.
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as felt totally dismissed by nearly every adult in my life as a kid
So at some point it stopped?
I wish. lol. no, I just became an adult.
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Pronouns. Especially bad when a 2SLGBTQIA+ person makes out like its not a big deal.
Its the most simple, base level thing you can do (using correct pronouns for someone etc). Doing it is not a big deal. Its very easy. But if you choose not to, despite how small of a deal it is, then you turn it into a very big deal.
I don’t really care, nor do I see it like a big deal. I’ve done my best in the past, but it’s also easy to say it wrong by accident.
Also, I don’t have the least idea what 2SLGBTQIA+ means, so I need the person to be clear with me what I should say.
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Capitalism isn't a big deal. As though giving a select few billions won't corrupt the nation around them over time.
And as a corollary, people acting how they just can't imagine how an economy could possibly work if people who do the actual work owned their means of production.
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Eating meat. It contributes 15-20% of the entire planets greenhouse gasses alone. And people do it just for pleasure. It's mindboggling.
people do it just for pleasure
there are other reasons, and pretending there aren't won't help youconvince the people who continue to choose it.
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I don’t really care, nor do I see it like a big deal. I’ve done my best in the past, but it’s also easy to say it wrong by accident.
Also, I don’t have the least idea what 2SLGBTQIA+ means, so I need the person to be clear with me what I should say.
I mean, obviously you can't just magically know someone's pronouns. The point is that you try.
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If you have non-meat alternatives that are within your means and provide the same nutritional value, and you still choose to eat meat on purpose, then it is for pleasure. But if you have a specific circumstance that is preventing you from switching to alternatives, then that's a different story.
I'm not disagreeing with you. My mother has been a vegetarian for decades. She suffers from blood pressure problem and constantly has to go see her doctor. Every time it gets worse she has to eat a small amount of meat to boost her nutritional level, but then she always goes back to being a vegetarian.
If it's OK for anyone to have a meatless diet, good. If further more he or she does it to save the planet, even better. But not everyone can do so, so I hope those who can do it stop pointing fingers.
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people do it just for pleasure
there are other reasons, and pretending there aren't won't help youconvince the people who continue to choose it.
Can you... Provide some of those reasons?
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I'm not disagreeing with you. My mother has been a vegetarian for decades. She suffers from blood pressure problem and constantly has to go see her doctor. Every time it gets worse she has to eat a small amount of meat to boost her nutritional level, but then she always goes back to being a vegetarian.
If it's OK for anyone to have a meatless diet, good. If further more he or she does it to save the planet, even better. But not everyone can do so, so I hope those who can do it stop pointing fingers.
Why doesn't your mother take a vitamin?
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Can you... Provide some of those reasons?
cost, culture, & convenience are the ones I usually refer. gas station hot dogs are cheap and convenient. turning down family recipes put a social strain related to culture. those are two great examples that cover all three. I'm sure you can imagine more: stopping for a fast food burger on your way to protest at the Capitol, etc.
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cost, culture, & convenience are the ones I usually refer. gas station hot dogs are cheap and convenient. turning down family recipes put a social strain related to culture. those are two great examples that cover all three. I'm sure you can imagine more: stopping for a fast food burger on your way to protest at the Capitol, etc.
Meat products are, per kilo, much more costly for their nutrient profiles compared with plant based alternatives. Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies. There's a reason third world countries rely on plant based foods, because they're objectively cheaper.
There are many cultural practises that we've left in the past. Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things. I can't say it's my culture to sacrifice children, even if it is.
I'd put convenience under the umbrella of pleasure. If we all lived our life based on convenience, people would drink drive, people wouldn't care about consent, just because it's easier doesn't mean it's right.
If my morality was based on whether it cause friction with my family, what weak morals I would have? "In this house, we say the N word!", "okay yes sorry mum, here I go saying the n word again!" Like, stick up for what's right, don't crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect.
Plant based food is objectively cheaper, culture doesn't permit amoral acts, convenience isn't a valid reason to do wrong, and if mild social pressure from family is enough to cause one to act immoral, then those morals were pretty flimsy to begin with.
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Meat products are, per kilo, much more costly for their nutrient profiles compared with plant based alternatives. Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies. There's a reason third world countries rely on plant based foods, because they're objectively cheaper.
There are many cultural practises that we've left in the past. Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things. I can't say it's my culture to sacrifice children, even if it is.
I'd put convenience under the umbrella of pleasure. If we all lived our life based on convenience, people would drink drive, people wouldn't care about consent, just because it's easier doesn't mean it's right.
If my morality was based on whether it cause friction with my family, what weak morals I would have? "In this house, we say the N word!", "okay yes sorry mum, here I go saying the n word again!" Like, stick up for what's right, don't crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect.
Plant based food is objectively cheaper, culture doesn't permit amoral acts, convenience isn't a valid reason to do wrong, and if mild social pressure from family is enough to cause one to act immoral, then those morals were pretty flimsy to begin with.
Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies.
this doesn't change the fact that, for some, in some situations, it is a better source of calories-per-dollar
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Meat products are, per kilo, much more costly for their nutrient profiles compared with plant based alternatives. Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies. There's a reason third world countries rely on plant based foods, because they're objectively cheaper.
There are many cultural practises that we've left in the past. Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things. I can't say it's my culture to sacrifice children, even if it is.
I'd put convenience under the umbrella of pleasure. If we all lived our life based on convenience, people would drink drive, people wouldn't care about consent, just because it's easier doesn't mean it's right.
If my morality was based on whether it cause friction with my family, what weak morals I would have? "In this house, we say the N word!", "okay yes sorry mum, here I go saying the n word again!" Like, stick up for what's right, don't crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect.
Plant based food is objectively cheaper, culture doesn't permit amoral acts, convenience isn't a valid reason to do wrong, and if mild social pressure from family is enough to cause one to act immoral, then those morals were pretty flimsy to begin with.
Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things.
i think you meant immoral. as it turns out, culture is a great reason to choose amoral actions, and most people think eating meat is amoral.
