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What are the most cynical corporations that currently exist?

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    For me, commercial social medias: they make money by spreading hate, violence, authoritarianism and misinformation.

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    cynical (/ˈsɪnɪkl/)
    adjective
    concerned only with one's own interests and typically disregarding accepted standards in order to achieve them.

    Technically all corporations and enterprises in a free market have to adhere to that description, by design. Corporations are fundamentally social structures built for one and one purpose only - creating value for shareholders.

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      For me, commercial social medias: they make money by spreading hate, violence, authoritarianism and misinformation.

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      Not even the worst but I'm amazed that a company exists that actually calls themselves Banana Republic and consumers were like, yes, this is good

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        For me, commercial social medias: they make money by spreading hate, violence, authoritarianism and misinformation.

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        one of them is big oil. they lied about climate change.

        there's also big plastic. they lied about recycling being sustainable.

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          cynical (/ˈsɪnɪkl/)
          adjective
          concerned only with one's own interests and typically disregarding accepted standards in order to achieve them.

          Technically all corporations and enterprises in a free market have to adhere to that description, by design. Corporations are fundamentally social structures built for one and one purpose only - creating value for shareholders.

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          Atleast on America that is by law if publicly traded. Let's say a company discovers something that amazing, say cure for cancer and decides they are going to give it out for free for the benefit of mankind. They can be sued and will likely lose. Only real defense would be they thought the goodwill from giving away for free would earn the shareholders more money through goodwill towards the company. A smaller scale version of this would be like a farm raising animals in non-optimal conditions (for profit but nicer to the animals like free-range instead of cages). They could argue the customers will be willing to pay a premium for that.

          If not publicly traded they can do whatever they want. If governmental they should have a goal or mission statement that states what their intent is(usually it's not profit) but if it's publically traded legally their only motive is profit to the shareholders.

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            one of them is big oil. they lied about climate change.

            there's also big plastic. they lied about recycling being sustainable.

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            They're the same, no?

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              They're the same, no?

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              looks like more reason to qualify as most.

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                For me, commercial social medias: they make money by spreading hate, violence, authoritarianism and misinformation.

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                Gotta be the ones that gatekeep necessities for profit.

                Housing, healthcare, food, and I guess internet now.

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                  For me, commercial social medias: they make money by spreading hate, violence, authoritarianism and misinformation.

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                  The system is the problem here, because it incentivizes these kinds of corporations to do these things.

                  So by the very nature of capitalism, all corporations.

                  When you have a boss "ruling over" a worker, that is just barely different than living as a serf. The difference here is you can choose your boss, but inherent in the system is that workers don't earn the full value of their work (surplus value), otherwise it wouldn't be worth it for the owner class to hire anyone.

                  Worker-owned cooperatives are pretty cool, though. Would be nice if all corporations were forced to be worker-owned.

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                    Chiquita (or a parent company idc).

                    Among the many other bad things they did, they knowingly AND REPEATEDLY hired terrorists, and also moved the US to overthrow the Guatemalan government just for a few labor laws.
                    Is it even possible to get an order of magnitude more cynical than that?

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                    Name a company that wouldn't do it too if they'd get away with it.
                    Not saying they're not pieces of garbage, but it's the system itself that's rotten from within

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                      For me, commercial social medias: they make money by spreading hate, violence, authoritarianism and misinformation.

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                      I think you can't use the word cynical in that way. People can be cynical, but corporations can't. Corporations don't have that type of thought or feeling.

                      So I'm really not sure what you're trying to ask. Are you asking which CEOs are the most cynical?

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                        Name a company that wouldn't do it too if they'd get away with it.
                        Not saying they're not pieces of garbage, but it's the system itself that's rotten from within

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                        It's not rotten but working exactly as intended.

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                          I think you can't use the word cynical in that way. People can be cynical, but corporations can't. Corporations don't have that type of thought or feeling.

                          So I'm really not sure what you're trying to ask. Are you asking which CEOs are the most cynical?

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                          Are you asking which CEOs are the most cynical?

                          Yeah, sort of

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                            Are you asking which CEOs are the most cynical?

                            Yeah, sort of

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                            Anything owned by Techno Hitler then

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                              It's not rotten but working exactly as intended.

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                              Yeah you're right. Might've worded suboptimal. Working as intended, yet disgusting to the core. Better? 🙂

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                                For me, commercial social medias: they make money by spreading hate, violence, authoritarianism and misinformation.

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                                Nestle and every corp that showed up to the inauguration.

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