Which browser do you use and why?
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Using firefox but concerned now
Been using zen for a few days with ublock, no issues so far but I might go back to librewolf soon even though it feels less modern. It just feels safer, idk tbh
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No I did not say that. Do you recommend people to use the default settings?
So it's the same as if your were using a fork nah? The only difference is that mozilla does know that you use a Firefox browser because telemetry is disabled
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So it's the same as if your were using a fork nah? The only difference is that mozilla does know that you use a Firefox browser because telemetry is disabled
No, it's not the same. Floorp users are not having that default. I repeat the question that you didn't answer yet:
would a search engine be willing to pay Mozilla to have them be a default search engine if it (stock Firefox) had no users?
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But who's making these "updates"? Who's doing the actual work of keeping the software secure? Mozilla is.
If everybody moves to a free-riding fork, Mozilla goes to 0% and there will be no browser let alone updates.
This needs to be higher up. We need firefox as an alternative to a chrome engine monopoly. ToS and telemetry are miniscule issues compared to what we are up against
Firefox is literally the last thing standing between google controlling the entire browser landscape and having control over all web standards (as if they dont already have too much influence)
People ditching firefox over tos, telemetry, AI, CEO pay, etc. are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Do i wish mozilla would stop doing stupid shit? Of course. But the alternative is far worse. Dont let perfect be the enemy of good. Mozilla will never be as ideologically pure as we want them to be, but that's OK (for now)
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Brave, FOSS. Because it's the best one I have found for my use case.
I am surprised by the lack of people mentioning brave, i swear it used to be mentioned everywhere.
Did something happen or did a newer better browser come out?
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Using firefox but concerned now
I moved to LibreWolf back when Mozilla announced AI features
I appreciate its privacy-focused approach
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You are absolutely correct, I apologize.
No prob at all dude! I just wanted to add the additional context in case some other persons stumbled upon these comments, were confused, and so they can get some more information on different browser options out there. Candidly, I only learned about Mull vs Mullvad Browser this week when I was researching what non-chromium browser to switch to next.
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IMO, if I'm going to jump from Chrome it might as well be for libre/OSS. No reason to just from proprietary to proprietary.
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Using firefox but concerned now
I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC
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I am surprised by the lack of people mentioning brave, i swear it used to be mentioned everywhere.
Did something happen or did a newer better browser come out?
It's chromium, thus evil, according to the narrow minded community.
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I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC
great point
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Using firefox but concerned now
Zen Browser
I love it
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I am surprised by the lack of people mentioning brave, i swear it used to be mentioned everywhere.
Did something happen or did a newer better browser come out?
It sucks ass, it's just chrome plus some crypto bullshit.
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Using firefox but concerned now
Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the "direction being worrisome". Well, I'll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it's still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.
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Same. I'm not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.
I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they've pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i'm going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it's Mozilla.
That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n't) changed.
Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.
I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I've used for 25+ years and I appreciate the "login anywhere and get your same setup" functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.
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Mull development has been abandoned. You might want to switch to IronFox, the community's fork to continue its legacy.
Thanks for the info!
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This needs to be higher up. We need firefox as an alternative to a chrome engine monopoly. ToS and telemetry are miniscule issues compared to what we are up against
Firefox is literally the last thing standing between google controlling the entire browser landscape and having control over all web standards (as if they dont already have too much influence)
People ditching firefox over tos, telemetry, AI, CEO pay, etc. are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Do i wish mozilla would stop doing stupid shit? Of course. But the alternative is far worse. Dont let perfect be the enemy of good. Mozilla will never be as ideologically pure as we want them to be, but that's OK (for now)
Depends on which way the Firefox ditchers jump - jumping to Chrome, yeah... not great. Jumping to more privacy respecting options... it's your data, you should be able to choose (if you care...)
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The biggest part of people use Chrome-based browsers.
To an extent, the enshittification of the most popular platform is inevitable.
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Depends on which way the Firefox ditchers jump - jumping to Chrome, yeah... not great. Jumping to more privacy respecting options... it's your data, you should be able to choose (if you care...)
Read the post above mine... "Privacy respecting options" are almost always downstream forks of firefox. Abandon/kill the source, and downstream dries up
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It's chromium, thus evil, according to the narrow minded community.
Yean chromium itself is not evil, its Google's use of it in chrome that is evil, people confuse this a lot I think.
