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Which browser do you use and why?

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    This needs to be higher up. We need firefox as an alternative to a chrome engine monopoly. ToS and telemetry are miniscule issues compared to what we are up against

    Firefox is literally the last thing standing between google controlling the entire browser landscape and having control over all web standards (as if they dont already have too much influence)

    People ditching firefox over tos, telemetry, AI, CEO pay, etc. are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Do i wish mozilla would stop doing stupid shit? Of course. But the alternative is far worse. Dont let perfect be the enemy of good. Mozilla will never be as ideologically pure as we want them to be, but that's OK (for now)

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    Depends on which way the Firefox ditchers jump - jumping to Chrome, yeah... not great. Jumping to more privacy respecting options... it's your data, you should be able to choose (if you care...)

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    • ferk@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

      The biggest part of people use Chrome-based browsers.

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      To an extent, the enshittification of the most popular platform is inevitable.

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        Depends on which way the Firefox ditchers jump - jumping to Chrome, yeah... not great. Jumping to more privacy respecting options... it's your data, you should be able to choose (if you care...)

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        Read the post above mine... "Privacy respecting options" are almost always downstream forks of firefox. Abandon/kill the source, and downstream dries up

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          It's chromium, thus evil, according to the narrow minded community.

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          Yean chromium itself is not evil, its Google's use of it in chrome that is evil, people confuse this a lot I think.

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            It sucks ass, it's just chrome plus some crypto bullshit.

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            It is not at all like chrome other than it uses chromium which is not inherently bad, its just googles use of it in chrome that is.

            You can turn off like 2 toggle buttons and see nothing related to crypto ever.

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            • boydster@sh.itjust.worksB [email protected]

              Nice, I was unaware, thanks!

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              To a slightly lesser extent, Id also suggest avoiding noscript for the same reason. uBlock Origin can do everything that NoScript can and NoScript contributes as a metric to create your overall fingerprint. If need strong protection against fingerprinting, use Mullvad or Tor Browser. Use Librewolf if you need to customize, or want to change the defaults.

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                Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the "direction being worrisome". Well, I'll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it's still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.

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                I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data

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                  I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data

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                  It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge

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                    I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I've used for 25+ years and I appreciate the "login anywhere and get your same setup" functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.

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                    You can login witb firefox and have the same setup amywhere as well. it's really convenient tp share tabs between mobile and workstation

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                      Using firefox but concerned now

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                      Everything is just a skin of either Chrome or Firefox. Until recently, all browser on iPhone were a skin of Safari.

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                        Using firefox but concerned now

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                          Using firefox but concerned now

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                          I use Librewolf as my daily driver, however it breaks a lot of websites. We had to purchase plane tickets yesterday and to use regular Firefox.

                          I was super hyped for Ladybird but there was this weird thing regarding pronouns on their docs (last year?) and no matter the outcome, I just decided to not follow it anymore.

                          I have Chromium installed for things that break even on regular Firefox and for comparing websites when I need.

                          On mobile (grapheneOS), I am currently using Firefox Nightly, I think because it was the only one I was able to install extensions from custom repositories, I am not sure if that's still the case. I know I can (and should use) Vanadium, but I always miss my FF extensions when I do it. I play a lot of things so I love when I am automatically redirected from Fandom to a Breeze wiki instance, for example.

                          I never tried any other browsers of the list, and honestly I am very curious on the differences between Librewolf and Waterfox. Wasn't able to do the research by myself yet.

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                            Using firefox but concerned now

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                            I'm a very recent linux convert, coming from windows where I was using Vivaldi and I quite like it. But... are there reasons to switch to something else?

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                              It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge

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                              Well, yes.

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                                Using firefox but concerned now

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                                I use firefox and am actively looking to change to something, potentially librewolf.

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                                  Using firefox but concerned now

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                                  Using a firefox derivative I dont think is a good option as it will always be behind on security updates.... I guess I am going to wait until the Orion Beta / software comes to Linux which was announced recently. Orion is a WebKit based browser that is on iphone / mac

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                                    I use firefox and am actively looking to change to something, potentially librewolf.

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                                    I like librewolf but for me video is so incredibly slow. Is anyone else having this issue?

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                                      I use DarkReader on Librewolf, works just fine. In fact, all of my extensions work.

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                                      Hm, maybe I'm remembering a different browser when it comes to the extensions thing. I'm thinking of one that used an older version of Firefox's addon system, so has all of three maintained ones.

                                      Well, either way, is dark reader.actually any good? Every non-native solution for dark mode I've ever tried has been a complete piece of crap, just lazily inverting the page contents, images often included.

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                                        Using firefox but concerned now

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                                        Falkon, because it's fully integrated to KDE. Though I wish an actual Qt web browser running Gecko (or Servo, maybe one day) existed.

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                                          Using firefox but concerned now

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                                          My issue is that while i am concerned about privacy, i’m more concerned with security patching. And none of these smaller browsers have the resources to turn around security fixes as quickly as firefox or chrome.

                                          Firefox is the least of the concerns as long as we have the config options to disable anything deemed not privacy-respecting.

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