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    Looks interesting but does it support absolutely vital extensions like ublock origins?

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      Language is extremely powerful.

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      Hmm I don't think you really understand what happened.

      The developer wrote a comment (not visible to the end user) using the male form.

      A random person opened a pull request without any useful changes, except for changing that comment from "he" to "their".

      The developer rejected that PR because it's politically motivated and it doesn't add anything else.

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        You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim.

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        There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form.

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          The Discord-based "support" makes it a "meh." The main devs alt-right BS makes it a "hard pass."

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          Alt right bs?

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          • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

            i know there was a thing at the beginning of the project where they wrote a lot of the documentation with masculine pronouns (ie assuming the reader was male), and when they were asked to change that for gender neutral pronouns, they said no because "they don’t want politics in their project"

            beyond that however, idk if they eventually changed that or if they did other stuff

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            Not really. A random person submitted a PR with just one pronoun change in the code comments (not the documentation, and not anything remotely visible to the end user).

            The developer rejected the (useless, in my opinion) PR.

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              Inclusive pronouns are not political, full stop.

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              They are political, because people (I'm not one of them) think they shouldn't be allowed and there are only two genders (e.g. the current president of the US).

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                Hmm I don't think you really understand what happened.

                The developer wrote a comment (not visible to the end user) using the male form.

                A random person opened a pull request without any useful changes, except for changing that comment from "he" to "their".

                The developer rejected that PR because it's politically motivated and it doesn't add anything else.

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                Right, except that's not politically motivated, and is a useful change for people reading the code, both for women and non-binary people.

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                  Both facists and tankies have genocided disabled people and selectively killed anarchists.

                  As a disabled anarchist, they end up seeming pretty similar to me.

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                  As a disabled non-anarchist, fuck both parties

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                    You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim.

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                    The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time.

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                      I’m with you. I install Legcord now so that I don’t have to install that shitty application on my actual computer. I highly recommend it for those communities that refuse to use anything else!

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                        Hmm I don't think you really understand what happened.

                        The developer wrote a comment (not visible to the end user) using the male form.

                        A random person opened a pull request without any useful changes, except for changing that comment from "he" to "their".

                        The developer rejected that PR because it's politically motivated and it doesn't add anything else.

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                        I know what happened. Is it a stupid, unnecessary fix? Sure, probably. But that doesn't mean it's political. Trans people simply existing is not a political issue.

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                          Transphobic main dev ruined the project for me

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                          Transphobic main dev […]

                          Do you have a source?

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                            Exactly!

                            I dislike tech people who mix politics into their work, even if I agree with their opinions. If you do both, just keep them separate, like separate YouTube channels or blogs or whatever. Lunduke doesn't do that, and many of his tech takes are colored by that as well, so I ignore him.

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                            I agree with you at some extent. As you say, maybe a different channel for politics, tech, etc.

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                              Dude, who is gonna kill you in this case?

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                                Ok, you keep saying that but never explain why/how. Like, why refuse such a small change so aggressively?

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                                The documentation has long since been changed.

                                Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su.

                                https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well).

                                Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814

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                                  The main issue I have right now: the jurisdiction of this is in the US, and to be honest, I don’t trust the US that much when it comes to privacy laws regarding the (near) future.

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                                  what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
                                  worry more about ur OS

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                                    I’m with you. I install Legcord now so that I don’t have to install that shitty application on my actual computer. I highly recommend it for those communities that refuse to use anything else!

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                                    You don't have to install anything. It's a website. I don't understand why people install the app (or any app that is a website in a wrapper).

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                                      You don't have to install anything. It's a website. I don't understand why people install the app (or any app that is a website in a wrapper).

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                                      Might want to look into Legcord, because it is definitely more than just a wrapper, friend.

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                                        As a disabled non-anarchist, fuck both parties

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                                        As a non-disabled non-anarchist, yeah fuck them

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                                          Fascism, just like Communism or even a Dictatorships are not inherently bad.

                                          We as humans key in on the oppressive authoritarianism of them as the evil in the system.

                                          That’s why I’d recommend you lump them all together as “oppressive authoritarianism” until one of them proves us otherwise, and not to need to find the nuances between them to prove they’re bad.

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                                          Fascism, just like Communism or even a Dictatorships are not inherently bad.

                                          Absolutely incorrect. Without getting into anything about the viability of a "good" dictatorship, that's a different discussion... Fascism is absolutely inherently bad. The entire ideology is based on: lies, hatred, discrimination, oppression, censorship, desire and ability to eliminate large swathes of their own population based on some inconsequential aspect of who they fundamentally are, etc.

                                          It's folly to equate fascism with far-left ideologies, or even include them in the same league when it comes to evilness. While you might not agree with the methods of the latter (I certainly don't w.r.t. tankies), the ideology of socialism is based on: worker's rights, egalitarianism, equity, social safety nets, mutual aid, etc.

                                          Not a single aspect of socialism as it exists in theory, so to speak, is objectively bad/evil. What happens is evil people use it as a vehicle to seize power. On the contrary, fascism is evil to the core. There is not a single redeeming factor to it.

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