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Funkwhale Wants to Filter Out Far-Right Music

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  • rglullis@communick.newsR [email protected]

    How would you do it directly in the software?

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    Being able to pay them

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    • comfy@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

      I wouldn't get too depressed about it, it would just be another niche bit of alt-tech if it were anything other than completely neutral. I can't think of a case when an anti-left fork of a software was memorable as a self-hostable tool. The closest I can think of is Gab, which hardly qualifies, nor does it hold a torch to Mastodon.

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      Technically, SoapBox and Rebased were forks of the Mastodon frontend and Pleroma backend by an alt-right dev that found some level of success in the alt-right part of the Fediverse. So, it's not completely unheard of.

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        Why is the right wing here,the fediverse is a socialist communist ass concept, so against capatilism born out as an indrect response to how republicans have led america

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        You'd be surprised, this has always been something of a weird schism within open source. There's a synthesis between socialist and libertarian ideals, the overlap of which is broadly seen as a beneficial social good. So, you get contributors and users that fall on opposite ends of a spectrum. This is just as true for the Fediverse, only the dynamic is much more pronounced, because it's a social network populated by people who got off of other social networks.

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        • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

          The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they're working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.

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          Can anyone tell me why I can't login to Funkwhale with my instance? No matter what I do I can't use it.

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          • zecg@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

            I fail to see how it's even possible for an open source project to dictate what content is acceptable. Also, the entire idea is contrary to rms' FOSS goals (for any purpose), other than being completely ineffective. I can understand the need for agency and contribution to whatever resistance can be mustered, but this is larping.

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            Reeks of bullshit ass slippery slope censorship to me.

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            • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

              The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they're working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.

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              You can decide what music you listen to. Anyway a band being too politcal won't make bad music, you don't have to agree to their ideas to appreciate the music

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                You can decide what music you listen to. Anyway a band being too politcal won't make bad music, you don't have to agree to their ideas to appreciate the music

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                This is how you get republicans wanting to use RATM on the campaign trail

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                  Can anyone tell me why I can't login to Funkwhale with my instance? No matter what I do I can't use it.

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                  Which instance do you use? Mine had been having issues recently

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                  • V [email protected]

                    You can decide what music you listen to. Anyway a band being too politcal won't make bad music, you don't have to agree to their ideas to appreciate the music

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                    Isn't that the age old "Is Burzum NSBM" discussion. Vikernes is definitely a Nazi, but his music, as in texts etc, isn't infested with Nazi ideology much unlike much more clear-cut NSBM: It's not National-Socialist Black Metal, but Black Metal than happens to be created by a National Socialist.

                    IMO in the end I don't mind you listening to, or even liking, Burzum, but please have the moral wherewithal to pirate.

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                    • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they're working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.

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                      This seems like well intentioned but ultimately pointless. Nothing is stopping a nazi group from just forking off an older version like how gab did with mastodon, and no currently active funkwhale pods allow right wing content already.

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                        Which instance do you use? Mine had been having issues recently

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                        World. But I did use one of the ones they suggested and that didn't work either.

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                          This is how you get republicans wanting to use RATM on the campaign trail

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                          That's kinda funny

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                          • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                            You'd be surprised, this has always been something of a weird schism within open source. There's a synthesis between socialist and libertarian ideals, the overlap of which is broadly seen as a beneficial social good. So, you get contributors and users that fall on opposite ends of a spectrum. This is just as true for the Fediverse, only the dynamic is much more pronounced, because it's a social network populated by people who got off of other social networks.

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                            People who want to give stuff away for free to beenfit everyone and people who want to take advantage of it to make money?

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                            • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com_ [email protected]

                              what the fuck are you even talking out?

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                              They should have given context

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                                Rightwingers.

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                                Ah, your original message does not make this clear. In fact, since the post is about Funkwhale, it seems like your talking shit about the platform, even though its not apparent what 'shit' refers to.

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                                  Ah, your original message does not make this clear. In fact, since the post is about Funkwhale, it seems like your talking shit about the platform, even though its not apparent what 'shit' refers to.

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                                  Fair criticism.

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    Maybe Im off base here but I'd say like 10% of music means right if center?

                                    This idea sounds dumb. Just don't listen to kid rock or ted Nugent, or most country, and you're basically all set.

                                    Then there's like 3 bands per genre that are dog whistlers or overtly shitty humans.

                                    Done?

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                                    From an American point of view, that's true. European metal has a bit of a Nazi problem.

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      Sounds like a fantastic plan.

                                      The handwringing about if we're being nice enough to the alt right is directly contributing to why we have so much mess we're now having to deal with. The approach seems sane to find music that's very specifically nazi rock, so they're being extremely limited in response, imo.

                                      Screw em, kick them out of anywhere you find them, and then nail the door they used to get in shut.

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                                      Hard disagree. Just like when people in the fediverse tried to block using certain words across the entire medium, this is going to cause more harm than good to appease people who can't think for themselves.

                                      I swear, the brow-beating crowd really has had free reign these past few years. It's time to rein them back in and watch them kick and scream like the tantrum-throwing children they really are.

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                                      • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                        The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they're working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.

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                                        Horrible idea. Let people share what they want and give the means for individuals to hide content they don't want to see.

                                        We shouldn't be deciding for other people what they are allowed to see.

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                                          I'm sure people are still free to take the code and make the necessary adjustments if they really need to host a Nazi-friendly instance.

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                                          A fork is desirable. Then we can have antifa hacktivists contributing to that source with malware to scare them out of their dumb political views.

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