Bullying, berating Trump shows his worst self in Zelenskyy ambush
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Or just use ranked voting or rated voting. Single winner doesn't imply the god awful first-past-the-post method
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lol then go move to Ukraine if you wanna suck him so badly dawg
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I know that's very natural for you to go around sucking off every man with a raised voice, but I'm not a republican, I don't do that. Thanks for the offer, you do you.
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You seem to be one of the few people I've seen online that seems to have watched the whole video and came away with this take, so I would love a civil response.
I'm certainly not on Trump/Vance's side, but when watching the whole video I can't help but think that Zelenskyy truly failed at understanding the purpose of the meeting and has condemned many more of his countrymen to death. It seemed obvious from the get go that Trump wanted this to be a public deceleration of economic entanglements and that the security discussions would come later. I get Zelenskyy's point that Russia has been impossible to deal with from a diplomatic standpoint and that he didn't want to leave Washington without a security gaurentee, but by publicly shaming Russia from the ovel office he is making diplomacy impossible. My impression is that Zelenskyy wants the war to keep going, but I truly don't understand why. His citizens are dying and they are losing territory. Russia has 10x the population and, historically, has had little reservations about sending their soldiers into the meat grinder. And let's not forget that if Russia gets backed into a corner, they still have nukes that could escalate the situation to unfathomable destruction.
From my nonexpert opinion, if I was the leader of Ukrainian I would be trying to make as many economic deals as possible with foreign nations and look to stop the war asap. I truly can't think of a better alternative than that given the current situation. So my question is, what should the US, EU, and Ukrainians be doing to stop the killing? What is the most realistic path to peace?
And just reiterate, I don't agree with the wording and attitude of Trump/Vance during that meeting, but the general sentiment of economic entanglements seems like the best option at this point. No?
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Sure, that lets people vote for who they want and still vote for someone that will actually win in a larger election, maybe pick up some more local offices.
Frankly Democrats should be big on RCV. The hard right and moderate right vote together, but the progressive is more split and a larger chunk refuses to vote strategically, at least if that is their only vote. RCV gives then the ability to vote the way they want to and still vote for a candidate with more broad acceptance.
Not sure it would have done anything in this presidential race, since there's no sign of third party vote being enough to change things in any remotely close state. It might have at least relieved the vitriol between would be allies over Democrat voters refusing to vote with the harder left versus the further left refusing to vote strategically with the Democrats.
There would remain the hopefully miniscule but very loud progressives that think either the electorate chess perfectly for their perfect candidate, or else someone like Trump should win to teach those voters a lesson, and maybe break things so hard that a path forward for their favored leaders to get in power.
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Oh okay. You must only suck tranny dick
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The idea that any deal with Russia that wouldn't include rock solid security guarantees would lead to stopping the killing, much less any sort of peace, is extremely naive. This issue is ongoing ever since Russia annexed Crimea, there have been many deals and all of them failed to stop Putin from breaking them. The issue is very simple - Trump can not (and absolutely doesn't want to, from the looks of things) convince Putin to stop the war, because Putin doesn't want the war to stop. It was shown time and time again that they aren't willing to stop their invasion, and only thing that ever thwarted their progress was military opposition. There is no reason to believe that Russia wouldn't just continue the invasion after the deal with USA is made. And Ukraine wouldn't have any benefit from this kind of deal, so why would they go through with it?
Since you watched all of it, as unbearable to watch it was, you probably also heard the comments of Trump in the interview afterwards - that he organized and prolonged this discussion to show the world that Zelensky can not be negotiated with. Whatever you might believe in, it's hard to imagine that as anything else other than admission that Trump never expected his "deal" to go through. They jumped and insulted the president of soverign country and blamed him for the war their close friend started. If your reaction to that is "he shouldn't have reacted to the provocation", then you're missing the point of why they provoked him in the first place. This way, at the very least, he made sure the world despised Trump and that all other allies of Ukraine were sympathetic. His only choice is to weather this storm until the fascist bubble in USA bursts and there is some chance for diplomacy in the future.
As for the economic entanglements, they mean nothing in times when USA is incapable of diplomacy and Russia is unwilling of adhering to any deals. Speaking of any trades where Ukraine is giving up their minerals before USA promises to push Russia outside of Ukraine borders is meaningless, and Ukraine wouldn't get anything out of that.
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Trump throats Putin, to even remotely suggest that this would end positively for Zelensky might as well prove that you're a shill or bot.
Go back to Reddit.
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Nazi lives don't matter
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Man, you just can't stop thinking about sucking dicks, huh. Lol
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Zelenskyy was only interested in allowing the US to take their 'rare earth' if the US was also going to guarantee that it would help their defense against Russia's advancements.
Trump claimed the deal had already been made, and tried to make the conference about how great he is and how bad the previous presidents were.
He praised questions that verbally sucked him off, and belittled those who asked genuine questions about the deal.
Then the two Americans bombarded Zelenskyy with questions and refused to allow him to answer.
They talked over him and got upset at him for not sucking their cocks the whole conference.The world does not respect Trump or the US. We laugh at their incompetence and look forward to their ego getting checked.
This whole press conference made the US look like half-assed war profiteers, rather than the 'freedom fighters' they like to roleplay as.
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Definitely give The West Wing a chance. It’s warm and fuzzy, which we can all use a bit more these days.
I really liked Space Force! That was a fun show; I was sad it got cancelled.
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Yeah yeah, just go pay rent and shut up
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Is that your go-to response? That's all you've got going for you? What a pathetic nazi life you live. A closeted dude proud he got morgage on a nails-and-two-by-four, that topples over with the slightest hint of wind. So american
Everybody hates you here. You don't matter.
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All I got going for me? Lol owning a house, a car, having a wife and kids. Everybody loves your type here. But away from the screen, you don’t matter
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That's what irritates me so much. We kinda expect politicians to give non-answers, half-truth, and doublespeak, but these people are something far worse than that, even, with straight up lies just made up on the spot.
It's a big game of chicken where everyone knows he's just made up of lies, but they're too afraid to call them out on it, but for anybody brave enough, simply pressing them with "What's your source? What the heck are you talking about?" Would embarrass them in front of billions of people (more than they already do themselves), and probably invite harsh retaliation that would further destabilize world geopolitics.
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A car!? Holy shit you really made it in life LMAO
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Name a single language that Trump speaks well.
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You're in a lemmy.world instance, brown lives are acceptable sacrifices to them.
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It doesnt matter who's right, there's a thing called decorum and controling your emotions. Trump got mad, and made a fool of himself.
Vance was only there to cause this.
