Looking for a VPS. I don't know who to choose.
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They refused my visa during the onboarding, a bit surprising
Credit card? Have things changed? I have two containers hosted there and I never gave mine.
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What are the specs like?
24gb memory and 4 OCPU . the CPU doesnt sound like much, but if its using the ampere back end and not the amd micro, the CPU performance scales up with demand (to a point).
I have two containers running, one using 16gb memory and another using 4gb, they each have one cpu and they perform fine for what they do.
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Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?
The opposite of VPS is more like “home lab”.
Managing a VPS yourself still counts as self-hosting.
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Aren’t you partially not in control? If that hardware gets nuked some how then you’re compromised
Sure, but with proper backups, you can be up and running somewhere else quickly, minutes even if you script it.
I mostly use it to get around CGNAT, but it totally makes sense for something that needs to be externally available anyway, like a Minecraft server.
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I just swapped from ssdNodes to MassiveGRID and I'm pretty happy with them so far (I'm sure there are much better VPS hosts out there). They just extended the sale they posted on lownedboxes through the weekend, so if you pay for 3 years, you get a 4th for free and you also lock-in the pricing for after that 4 year period, too. This is the thread.
If you do decide to order (before Monday) make sure you sign up and make a post in the lowendbox forum thread to get your extra year.
The only real downside to them is they only offer 1Gbps connections for right now (they're upgrading so you can order multi-Gbps connections in the future), but I'm able to max out the connection: http://i.xno.dev/u/6ZM52h.png
These are the specs: http://i.xno.dev/u/qJeLjE.png
And this is proof of the 4th year: http://i.xno.dev/u/0xN6Z0.pngSo I ended up paying $141.28 for 4 years which is $2.94/mo. Very worth it, IMO considering the specs.
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Just an FYI getting a vps or dedicated server that is fast enough for Minecraft modpacks is going to be fairly expensive. It might be cheaper to get shared hosting for the MC server and a separate vps for the docker stuff.
Or if you have reliable home internet, just get/reuse a small PC and host at home.
But if you don't have a ton of users, you can host on a pretty cheap VPS.
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Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?
This is one of those things where I think that purity might conflict with progress. I am currently using a VPS in a privacy-friendly country to host some stuff, and I am trying to move more of my needs there. I can easily try to host things at my house(and I do to a limited extent, I have a VPN I run through a VPS to connect my devices together to accomplish this), but dealing with the constraints of non-professional hardware management and a residential internet connection is frustrating. This frustration has in the past prevented me from reducing my use of services where I know they are farming my data, and would probably honor illegal and warrant-less data requests from government agencies. At least with IaaS, I give them money in exchange for a virtual machine, vs SaaS where I give them possibly money but more importantly permission to do whatever they want with my highly structured data(far easer to data mine a easily searchable database of PII vs a filesystem of unknown structure).
Even outside of tech, I have often found that my sense of purity gets in the way of actually making progress towards my values. Use the VPS if it will get you to stop using worse things.
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24gb memory and 4 OCPU . the CPU doesnt sound like much, but if its using the ampere back end and not the amd micro, the CPU performance scales up with demand (to a point).
I have two containers running, one using 16gb memory and another using 4gb, they each have one cpu and they perform fine for what they do.
Ok thanks not bad! How much storage?
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Did you upgrade your account to a paid one? I've read that this might help to precent from being deleted. Even with a paid-as-you-go account you're able to use the free tiers.
I'm on completely free, no deletionm I'm using it to run Wireguard tunnel to my home network, after I was put behind CGNAT. Domain name pointed to the VPS, it redirects ports to my home.
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Ya, like I said. I jumped on them because of the price. The hardware isn't the most powerful in the world, but to run my hosted services it's been excellent so far. I'm super happy and I'm paying next to nothing which is great.
Now my domain costs more than my hosting T__T
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Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?
The opposite of self-hosted would be managed service.
You run it yourself at your own location however you want it
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Someone runs it for you at their location. However the want it
VPS is someone loans you a VM at their location that you run yourself however you want to.
It's still relevant to self-hosted because you still have to do all the work, you were just using their network, power, air conditioning, hardware and fire suppression. You're still in the hook for installs and patches, configuration, and software issues.
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Ok thanks not bad! How much storage?
Hmm... Let me look.
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24gb memory and 4 OCPU . the CPU doesnt sound like much, but if its using the ampere back end and not the amd micro, the CPU performance scales up with demand (to a point).
I have two containers running, one using 16gb memory and another using 4gb, they each have one cpu and they perform fine for what they do.
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Oracle Free Tier. Works like a charm for me for 2 years. Really free, really working. No matter what shit company Oracle is.
Interesting, maybe I'll play around with that. I'm currently on a simple $5/month Hetzner VPS which does everything I need it to do, but maybe I'll try using it for experimental stuff (considering a Rust build server, for example).
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You can get a quad core ARM 24 gb ram vpn for free on oracle cloud on their free tier.
Any caveats to it?
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Hmm... Let me look.
Not bad for free. Appreciate you checking.
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Oracle Free Tier. Works like a charm for me for 2 years. Really free, really working. No matter what shit company Oracle is.
Just a PSA, never ever EVER request deletion of an Oracle free tier if there is any possibility you might want one in the future.
You can delete/remove instances or whatever as you desire, but you won't be able to get a second free tier account even if the first is completely deleted.
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Or if you have reliable home internet, just get/reuse a small PC and host at home.
But if you don't have a ton of users, you can host on a pretty cheap VPS.
Also if you do go this route and are concerned about privacy and security you can get a cheap vps then setup a VPN (wireguard probably) on the vps and have your home server connect to that. Then you can forward the vps ports to the VPN IP of your home server. This means that you don't need to have port forwarding or even a dedicated IP at home and users don't get your home IP. Keep in mind you need a vps that is relatively close to your house to keep the latency down as this setup will add twice the latency between home and the vps to the connection.
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I'm on completely free, no deletionm I'm using it to run Wireguard tunnel to my home network, after I was put behind CGNAT. Domain name pointed to the VPS, it redirects ports to my home.
Thanks. Yes I am currently doing the same but was wondering if my account will be deleted at some point.
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Any caveats to it?
Just don't try to run huge amounts of bandwidth or try to pirate content on it and you'll be fine.
It does need a credit card on file, but it cannot charge it unless you explicity disable free tier.
