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Have you considered just not making the product at all?

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    Have you considered just not making the product at all?

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      Have you considered just not making the product at all?

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      The cat is a bit out of the bag on that one.

      Predator has been several years in the making at this point, but I've been trying to balance limiting mass surveillance while still having a product that's compelling enough for people to be willing to give up the traditional mass surveillance methods.

      As far as the data import utility goes, that component is still private while I figure out how to handle it.

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        The cat is a bit out of the bag on that one.

        Predator has been several years in the making at this point, but I've been trying to balance limiting mass surveillance while still having a product that's compelling enough for people to be willing to give up the traditional mass surveillance methods.

        As far as the data import utility goes, that component is still private while I figure out how to handle it.

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        If it's really morally questionable, no amount of sunk cost justifies it. If it hasn't been released, the cat remains in the bag.

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          If it's really morally questionable, no amount of sunk cost justifies it. If it hasn't been released, the cat remains in the bag.

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          I guess I'll reframe the question a bit: Flock ALPR is the dominant brand in this field, and they have shown zero desire to protect individual liberty and privacy. This latest utility I've been experimenting with tries to replace the functionality of Flock ALPR with decentralized private data sources, rather than massive centralized databases (which I think is vastly better for privacy and reducing government overreach). The question is: would such a product improve privacy/freedom by eliminating the need for Flock (and competitors), or just further contribute to the problem?

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            I guess I'll reframe the question a bit: Flock ALPR is the dominant brand in this field, and they have shown zero desire to protect individual liberty and privacy. This latest utility I've been experimenting with tries to replace the functionality of Flock ALPR with decentralized private data sources, rather than massive centralized databases (which I think is vastly better for privacy and reducing government overreach). The question is: would such a product improve privacy/freedom by eliminating the need for Flock (and competitors), or just further contribute to the problem?

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            It will absolutely not eliminate Flock. Businesses and governments are barely even going to consider your product.

            You can democratize a surveillance tool all you want, but it's still surveillance.

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              I guess I'll reframe the question a bit: Flock ALPR is the dominant brand in this field, and they have shown zero desire to protect individual liberty and privacy. This latest utility I've been experimenting with tries to replace the functionality of Flock ALPR with decentralized private data sources, rather than massive centralized databases (which I think is vastly better for privacy and reducing government overreach). The question is: would such a product improve privacy/freedom by eliminating the need for Flock (and competitors), or just further contribute to the problem?

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              I share your optimism to a point. If it convinces one municipality to not adopt Flock, it’s a victory. That said, I can see a corrupt government issuing an alert to track a car down. However, if done correctly, this action will be undeniable and visible, and it can’t give them heavy information.

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