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I'm Tired of Pretending Tech is Making the World Better

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  • x4740n@lemm.eeX [email protected]

    I prefer the saying "technology is a tool and a tool can be used for good or evil" or something like that

    You can use a hammer to hammer nails or to injure someone

    Technology can make the world better if its in the right hands for example open source hardware & software

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    You could say the same thing about splitting atoms.

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      Boy do I have a story for you.

      I tried to order a quesadilla from chipotle. A online exclusive. Turns out online ordering for the location nearest me was broken so I went in and explained that I was unable to order it, and I asked if I can just get one anyway. They flat out said no.

      They refused to sell me a cheese quesadilla simply because it wasn’t ordered through their app/site which was broken. I just left and got food somewhere else.

      I’ve been boycotting chipotle ever since.

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      Lemmy really needs a community for good fast food copycat recipes so we can make it ourselves instead of having to rely on fastfood establishments

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        So you’re just gonna make stuff up as you feel it’s true?

        “Consumers do not buy stock” lol yes they do
        “iPhone can be the cheapest option” (as long as you don’t care how much you spend and it has perceived value”
        “Tech only increases choices” (biggest laugh I had in a while)
        “Most people in the world do not live in smaller communities”

        Fucking lol my dude. Sounds like you’re really projecting your life into facts of the world which is a common disease among programmers.

        You know that places outside of US exist right? You know that the tech created in US cities disproportionately adversely affects 3rd world countries. If you ignore all that and go full bootlick mode on tech oligarchs then yes all you say is true, but back in the real world you couldn’t be further off base

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        I have never lived in the US, my man. I am not a programmer, either. So 0 for 2.

        Keep up the good work, you convinced me with your Lols. Consumer definitely decide the price of stocks. And the color of the sky. You got it, champ. Typed on an electronic device. Sent over the internet. I love the hypocrisy 😉

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          First of all, follow the thread brother, I'm not the same person you originally replied to.

          Second of all, this article is just as much about capitalism as it is about "tech". If you actually read the article and just thought "this is just about tech" and not "this is about tech and how it has leaked unnecessarily into nearly every transaction", then IDK what to tell you

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          None of those things are about capitalsm, so still irrelevant.

          And I know what the article is about, I just think it's bullshit first and the most minor of minor problems second.

          Tech is a huge net positive and even when it's annoying it's a fucking trivial thing to work around.

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            You could say the same thing about splitting atoms.

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            That's also technology. Used for good and evil.

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              None of those things are about capitalsm, so still irrelevant.

              And I know what the article is about, I just think it's bullshit first and the most minor of minor problems second.

              Tech is a huge net positive and even when it's annoying it's a fucking trivial thing to work around.

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              Alright bud, it's obvious you're just interested in being a contrarian and not actual productive conversation, so see ya 👉

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                most people are stuck with the couple choices they have in town and when tech comes in and forces the enshitificstion of services in order to pump stock price you’re stuck just eating this shit forever.

                Is that the fault of the technology, though, or is that the fault of the companies?

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                I keep hearing about it’s just “fault of companies” as if companies weren’t lead by the tech bros. By that logic all the pollution BP and other oil companies cause is just company decisions ! It’s not the fault of oil that greedy oil barons exist… yet it’s the burning oil causing the pollution (admittedly not best example but sort of holds)

                Often times the tech companies try to “disrupt” a particular industry by providing a tech based approach and then lobbying the legacy business out of existence thus limiting your choices. This is why the tech enshitification works, because there is no real competition. The uber wealthy simply force feed you what they want. Uber, Netflix, and Amazon all operated at a loss specifically to be able to starve out legitimate businesses and limit your choice to only what they provide. Now we don’t have much of independent book stores, taxis outside of big metro hubs, and god only knows what’s going on with streaming service prices.

                The ultimate fuck you from modern tech is the “if you don’t like it, don’t use it” while at the same time they work tirelessly for their tech “solution” to be the only choice.

                So yea a ton of tech sucks and exists only to extract value out of its users and not solve any concrete issue

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                  ...but just like you chided the person you replied to, none of that is true or real. The restaurant that forces you to use their app doesn't exist, and it's not the only restaurant in town. None of that is even because of technology, it's because of capitalism.

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                  The restaurant that forces you to use their app doesn't exist

                  Here is one such restaurant (have to use their website via QR code, but same idea) near where I live: https://maps.app.goo.gl/6LhBMo5duVzSB9HE9

                  That said, it's clearly not the only restaurant in town, and nobody is forcing a gun to your head to eat there.

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                    I saw the writing on the wall when we started getting itunes updates that no one wanted.

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                      I understand the complaint, but the big picture of tech has a ton of upside.

                      Tech itself is not the issue. How it's applied is the issue.

                      Once tech takes hold, there is massive pressure to monetize the asset.

                      That's where this complaint lives. Amazing advance becomes ubiquitous, then two things inevitably occur. Companies are formed that apply the technology on unnecessary and unpopular ways (parking app is a perfect example) or the pressure to make more more MORE MONEY triggers the enshittification spiral, where "wow, you can print wirelessly now!?" becomes "my printer won't take any cartridges but brand name, and I have to watch an unskippable 30-second ad every time I print now??!!!"

                      It follows that as tech saturates our lives, the inevitability of enshittification will also saturate our lives.

                      The year is 2044, you don't feel old but the ticker is starting to skip several beats a day. Your doctor is forced to use the product at his disposal to help you, which is the PaceXMaker produced by the Tesla-Cola conglomerate. The device is a true miracle of modern science. The size of a fingernail, it pulses electricity into your heart in carefully measured bursts to support proper function of all valves, and ensures that any plaque is dissolved harmlessly away. Your iEye tracks the device status, and alerts you when it starts to run low on fuel, a proprietary enzyme designed by Tesla-Cola. When the iEye app notifies you that the enzyme is running low, simply crack open an ice cold, refreshing can of Tesla Cola Zero to refuel your device for another two hours. Need to sleep? We got you. Hook up the Tesla Cola Zero-Venous BeautyRest to your ArmDock (patent pending) for up to five hours of relaxing enzyme replenishment. You can remove the arm dock after you confirm six ad-watch minute credits on your iEye.

                      Tesla-Cola: We Got You

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                      I would say Tech with a capital T includes not just physical or cloud tech, but the whole process, down to shitty Product Owners and business teams, delivery crap features to customers.

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                        What's sad about a lunch pause? Do I need to keep working 8 hours straight?

                        Or about a car braking automatically? I has saved me twice in four years, I was looking to see if someone was coming from one direction while the guy in front of me braked suddenly. Car stopped before I rear ended the other guy.

                        I must be missing something...

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                        Yeah, idk what the other guy was talking about. But, I've ridden with someone that apparently got dependent on that automatic braking feature. He "used" something like 5 times during a 1.5 hour trip.

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                          Technology absolutely helps advance science and helps the disabled, It’s greedy fucks that destroyed good tech

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                            Some parts of life have gotten massively easier. The other day I called my pharmacy to delay my next prescription refill because I still have pills. I was able to do this entirely through voice interaction with an automated system. Huzzah. I get texts when my scrips are about to be filled or ready, and reminders if I don’t pick them up for a while. I can also see this info on demand in an app if I want. What’s not to like?

                            My entire medical group runs on an app now. I can make appointments with my doctor, see the documentation from prior visits, pay bills, see test results…

                            Oh but boo hoo this author had to download an app to order a drink. First world problems…

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                              lunch pause

                              car brakes automatically if I'm distracted

                              These two lines paint a very sad picture.

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                              I think you hit the head on the nail.

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                              • x4740n@lemm.eeX [email protected]

                                I prefer the saying "technology is a tool and a tool can be used for good or evil" or something like that

                                You can use a hammer to hammer nails or to injure someone

                                Technology can make the world better if its in the right hands for example open source hardware & software

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                                "La science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme"

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                                • toribor@corndog.socialT [email protected]

                                  My mouse recently developed an issue that had me looking at potential replacements and again almost nothing currently available matches it or was even close.

                                  I used the exact same Logitech MX518 mouse from ~2009 until ~2020. Then I went through one every 9 months or so until they succumbed to same problems with the scrollwheel failing until I finally had to stop buying their crap.

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                                  On my small fleet of Logi M570 trackball mice, I occasionally have to crack them open and tweezer out the wreath of hair that has built up in the mouse wheel which obscures the sensor. It'll be a mix of mine and my cats hair.

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                                    I think this headline is slightly misleading. Here are some better ones:

                                    • Reclaiming Humanity in the Age of Overbearing Technology
                                    • When Convenient Tech Becomes a Burden: A Call for Human-Centric Design
                                    • How Modern Tech Erodes Human Interaction
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                                    • x4740n@lemm.eeX [email protected]

                                      Lemmy really needs a community for good fast food copycat recipes so we can make it ourselves instead of having to rely on fastfood establishments

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                                      Mate, it's a cheese quesadilla. It's two tortillas, cheese, and heat...

                                      Joking aside, there are a few out there. A lot of people are surprisingly into figuring out copycatting popular fast food.

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                                        I had an Amazon bot lie to me. I told it some item didn't show up and I wanted a replacement. It said it would send one and it would show up in my orders. It never did. So I requested a refund later. So tedious.

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                                          Alright bud, it's obvious you're just interested in being a contrarian and not actual productive conversation, so see ya 👉

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                                          Yep, I want to be a contrarian, that why I brought politics in a discussion about tech. Oh, wait...

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