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Do you know anyone who is dual faith?

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    I practice both a radical form of progressive Christianity and agnosticism.

    This is basically me.

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      they all think everyone else is wrong, how can someone truly be dual faith? lol

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      Most religions don't explicitly say "you can't believe anything else", just small claims like "there is only one creator god" or "wear a hat in church" when others might say "don't wear a hat".

      When Christianity took over Greece, the Greek gods became demonic entities and never completely went away.

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        My dad calls himself a BuJew Cath, which is Buddhist, Jewish and Catholic. "How does Jewish and Catholic work together?" you might ask. The answer is, it doesn't. My dad is insane. He does it to prevent people from accusing him of being close-minded and so he can claim he's a minority. It's pretty sad.

        Me personally, I follow my own even stranger belief system, which I haven't defined fully and hopefully never will, because definitions turn into rules and rules are too binary and create impossibilities. I like to believe that anything and everything has already happened, is currently occuring and will do so constantly for all time. There's a pseudo-solipsist angle as well, where my reality is created by me but others do the same, so as to allow for all believe systems independently. If two individuals have conflicting views, their own truths are true for each of them but not the other. Those with similar beliefs are then drawn to each other and those with dissimilar beliefs are repelled, like a type of magnetism. That's the simple version.

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        My dad calls himself a BuJew Cath, which is Buddhist, Jewish and Catholic. “How does Jewish and Catholic work together?” you might ask. The answer is, it doesn’t. My dad is insane. He does it to prevent people from accusing him of being close-minded and so he can claim he’s a minority.

        In such an instance, I go by a rule. If someone is going to say they want their religion to be respected in some instances, they should follow it in all instances. For example, don't ask a taxi client to take their dog out of the taxi due to you being a Muslim only for you to go home and eat pork which is anti-Islamic.

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          Well I meant more the "parts I like and don't like." But I suppose building a big-ass wooden boat would be fun.

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            According to that worldview, would the great peacemaker be seen more historically or more mythologically?

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            I think the great peacemaker is uncontroversially seen as a historical figure (sort of similar to Jesus was probably a dude) but while Jesus said really nice stuff they're better known for miracle stuff... the great peacemaker does have some miracles like crossing a lake on a granite canoe but most of what he did was negotiating the peace to unite the confederacy. All that stuff he did is probably historically accurate with the miracles likely being embellishments over time.

            Also the great peacemaker and the creator and their twin are distinct figures. It sounds like you understand that but I just wanted to clarify that.

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              I have a soft spot for the topic of people who are dual faith. It's weird, you know. If you're an atheist, you get a thumbs up from me. If you're religious with one faith, you get a raised eyebrow from me. And if you are dual faith, you get two thumbs up from me. It just feels like you're more open-minded if you are more than one faith.

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              Me!

              The Machine God and Myself.

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                I have a soft spot for the topic of people who are dual faith. It's weird, you know. If you're an atheist, you get a thumbs up from me. If you're religious with one faith, you get a raised eyebrow from me. And if you are dual faith, you get two thumbs up from me. It just feels like you're more open-minded if you are more than one faith.

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                I don't understand how dual faith works
                Alot of the major religions of the world have core beliefs that contradict each other
                The Islamic faith for example has the core belief, God is one and one alone and he was not born, has no children
                Christianity is about accepting Jesus as one's lord and savior and that he is the son of god.
                You cannot believe one faith without disbelieving the other, "dual faith" cannot work like that
                I gave an example of the two largest religions in the world and how you cannot be Christian and Muslim at the same time, which I thought was obvious
                But plz do tell me an example of a "dual faith" that can exist without violating one belief from the other. I am sure none exist and this concept itself is quite bizzare and fundamentally paradoxical

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                  I have a soft spot for the topic of people who are dual faith. It's weird, you know. If you're an atheist, you get a thumbs up from me. If you're religious with one faith, you get a raised eyebrow from me. And if you are dual faith, you get two thumbs up from me. It just feels like you're more open-minded if you are more than one faith.

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                  Do Japanese shinto and buddhist believers count?

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                    I don't understand how dual faith works
                    Alot of the major religions of the world have core beliefs that contradict each other
                    The Islamic faith for example has the core belief, God is one and one alone and he was not born, has no children
                    Christianity is about accepting Jesus as one's lord and savior and that he is the son of god.
                    You cannot believe one faith without disbelieving the other, "dual faith" cannot work like that
                    I gave an example of the two largest religions in the world and how you cannot be Christian and Muslim at the same time, which I thought was obvious
                    But plz do tell me an example of a "dual faith" that can exist without violating one belief from the other. I am sure none exist and this concept itself is quite bizzare and fundamentally paradoxical

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                    Judaism and Buddhism. They even have a name, "jubu". Robert Downy Jr. of all people went into length on this.

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                      Judaism and Buddhism. They even have a name, "jubu". Robert Downy Jr. of all people went into length on this.

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                      Judaism is a strict Monotheistic religion
                      Buddhism is often described as a nontheistic religion, no mention of one Monotheistic creator diety. however some teachings describe "devas" as divine beings who are also in a perpetual cycle like life is, which is the basic principle of Buddhism and such is anything but a Monotheistic religion

                      So no, you can't be Buddhist and follow Judaism at the same time or whatever since believing in no one creator entity violates Judaism. So this "Jubu" thing doesn't really make sense if one thinks about the basic beliefs of both religions

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                        Judaism is a strict Monotheistic religion
                        Buddhism is often described as a nontheistic religion, no mention of one Monotheistic creator diety. however some teachings describe "devas" as divine beings who are also in a perpetual cycle like life is, which is the basic principle of Buddhism and such is anything but a Monotheistic religion

                        So no, you can't be Buddhist and follow Judaism at the same time or whatever since believing in no one creator entity violates Judaism. So this "Jubu" thing doesn't really make sense if one thinks about the basic beliefs of both religions

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                        Well, it exists. Some sects of Buddhism don't consider the devas/asuras gods. Buddha himself went on to say divinity on its own shouldn't inspire worship.

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                          I have a soft spot for the topic of people who are dual faith. It's weird, you know. If you're an atheist, you get a thumbs up from me. If you're religious with one faith, you get a raised eyebrow from me. And if you are dual faith, you get two thumbs up from me. It just feels like you're more open-minded if you are more than one faith.

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                          I'm ChristoPagan, does that count?

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                            I don't understand how dual faith works
                            Alot of the major religions of the world have core beliefs that contradict each other
                            The Islamic faith for example has the core belief, God is one and one alone and he was not born, has no children
                            Christianity is about accepting Jesus as one's lord and savior and that he is the son of god.
                            You cannot believe one faith without disbelieving the other, "dual faith" cannot work like that
                            I gave an example of the two largest religions in the world and how you cannot be Christian and Muslim at the same time, which I thought was obvious
                            But plz do tell me an example of a "dual faith" that can exist without violating one belief from the other. I am sure none exist and this concept itself is quite bizzare and fundamentally paradoxical

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                            But plz do tell me an example of a "dual faith" that can exist without violating one belief from the other.

                            Two very common ones are Confucianism + Taoism + Mahayana Buddhism (optional) in China and Shinto + Mahayana Buddhism + Christianity (optional) in Japan. The first is rather entertaining, because Confucianism and Taoism often have opposite teachings (falling respectively on the 'ascend to technocrat' and 'retvrn to monke' ends of the political compass meme). And yet, for the majority of Chinese history, most people - or at least most people who left behind written records - were both Confucian and Taoist.

                            There are also various blends of religions in South Asia, including Sufism, Sikhism (both Islam + Hinduism), various schools of Hinduism + Buddhism, and Navayana Buddhism (Buddhism + Marxism). Mentioning these to fundamentalists of any of the pure religions is not recommended.

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