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'We Are Witnessing a New Brain Drain' as Scientists Flee America for France

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  • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]
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    Need any IT?

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      Please stop parroting this notion that Canada's problems mirror those if the united states.

      The number of so called "illegals" pales in comparison to the number of foreign investors buying up property and jacking IP the rental rates.

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      i bet canadians would not be so angry if people like them (colour, religion, mindset!) would be the immigrants but according to this:
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_immigration_statistics

      60% are people from third world cuntries.

      i cant blame the canadians!

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        I'm doing my part fleeing to Sweden, granted I'm a programmer and game dev so not a scientist. I'm done letting the US profit off my skills though

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        You will like it, Sweden has a nice relaxed working culture where we actually care about how people feel at work.

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          Canada seriously needs to make a big show of offering the same thing. It's now or never.

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          A lot of scientists get paid terribly in Canada unfortunately. Certain industries are non existent or exist to support the US industry (mainly pharma)

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          • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]
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            Totally would have joined them if it wasn't for my stupid bitch of an ex-wife.

            Good luck guys.

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              pardonnez-moi, puis-je vous intéresser à un programmeur?

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                I've been saying it since 2016: the EU should start granting political asylum to people from the US.

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                I moved from the U.S. to Germany in 2020.

                My running joke since was wondering whether I’d be eligible for citizenship or asylum first….

                Almost over the finish line for being eligible for citizenship, but I feel like asylum isn’t that far off.

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                  unfortunately even their (middle east, africa) doctors are just as intelligent as our average man or women. crazy to think about!

                  i want some east asian or jews as immigrants! theyre more intelligent than the average european.

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                  You could move to East Asia or to Israel yourself. That is, if you’re intelligent enough.

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                    I've been saying it since 2016: the EU should start granting political asylum to people from the US.

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                    There are already a handful of good digital nomad (and other) visa options that are really tempting.

                    I haven't done a TON of research here, just watched a lot of youtube videos discussing the process, daydreaming of placing some distance between myself and Trump. There are a handful of countries across Europe I'd jump at the chance to move to if there were reasonable odds to get permanent residence or citizenship.

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                      You could move to East Asia or to Israel yourself. That is, if you’re intelligent enough.

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                      why would i? these are not my people. i dont look like them.

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                        Reverse the brain drain of the 1930s.

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                        Sure, 1930s...

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                          Need any IT?

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                          Germany needs plenty. But only the cheap ones with expert knowledge. That’s not how they would word it though

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                            Totally would have joined them if it wasn't for my stupid bitch of an ex-wife.

                            Good luck guys.

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                            France should be big enough that you can avoid her in day to day activities, I think.

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                              Left for Taiwan in the first Trump presidency. Haven't been back since.

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                                France should be big enough that you can avoid her in day to day activities, I think.

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                                No, I mean I have a kid here. I cant take my kid with me to France. I've thought about asking her, but I can just imagine the the shit that will start.

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                                  I moved from the U.S. to Germany in 2020.

                                  My running joke since was wondering whether I’d be eligible for citizenship or asylum first….

                                  Almost over the finish line for being eligible for citizenship, but I feel like asylum isn’t that far off.

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                                  You don't need asylum if you are a legal resident. Asylum is the most insecure form of permit, especially in Germany, where the society is currently getting more and more hostile to migration, including labeling countries like Afghanistan as "safe countries of origin" and organizing deportations with the Taliban.

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                                    Top level scientists/professors are like famous sports players. Recruiting them is a prestige boost which attracts students and employees, but also can have very direct results if they manage some breakthrough or novel solution.

                                    Talking about labs. Building, organizing and running those is far harder than spending money on equipment usually.

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                                      I'm doing my part fleeing to Sweden, granted I'm a programmer and game dev so not a scientist. I'm done letting the US profit off my skills though

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                                      I assume you're taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).

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                                        No no no, you're trying to be a better place than the US. Stop talking like them.

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                                        This conversation is a retard magnet, unfortunately.

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                                          Y'all need data analysts?

                                          Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?

                                          I know a guy...

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                                          You may have a look to Bordeaux's University. There are litterally school and research center for wine 🤣

                                          https://www.u-bordeaux.fr/universite/organisation-et-fonctionnement/composantes-de-formation/isvv

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