'We Are Witnessing a New Brain Drain' as Scientists Flee America for France
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pardonnez-moi, puis-je vous intéresser à un programmeur?
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I've been saying it since 2016: the EU should start granting political asylum to people from the US.
I moved from the U.S. to Germany in 2020.
My running joke since was wondering whether I’d be eligible for citizenship or asylum first….
Almost over the finish line for being eligible for citizenship, but I feel like asylum isn’t that far off.
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unfortunately even their (middle east, africa) doctors are just as intelligent as our average man or women. crazy to think about!
i want some east asian or jews as immigrants! theyre more intelligent than the average european.
You could move to East Asia or to Israel yourself. That is, if you’re intelligent enough.
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I've been saying it since 2016: the EU should start granting political asylum to people from the US.
There are already a handful of good digital nomad (and other) visa options that are really tempting.
I haven't done a TON of research here, just watched a lot of youtube videos discussing the process, daydreaming of placing some distance between myself and Trump. There are a handful of countries across Europe I'd jump at the chance to move to if there were reasonable odds to get permanent residence or citizenship.
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You could move to East Asia or to Israel yourself. That is, if you’re intelligent enough.
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Reverse the brain drain of the 1930s.
Sure, 1930s...
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Need any IT?
Germany needs plenty. But only the cheap ones with expert knowledge. That’s not how they would word it though
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Totally would have joined them if it wasn't for my stupid bitch of an ex-wife.
Good luck guys.
France should be big enough that you can avoid her in day to day activities, I think.
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Left for Taiwan in the first Trump presidency. Haven't been back since.
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France should be big enough that you can avoid her in day to day activities, I think.
No, I mean I have a kid here. I cant take my kid with me to France. I've thought about asking her, but I can just imagine the the shit that will start.
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I moved from the U.S. to Germany in 2020.
My running joke since was wondering whether I’d be eligible for citizenship or asylum first….
Almost over the finish line for being eligible for citizenship, but I feel like asylum isn’t that far off.
You don't need asylum if you are a legal resident. Asylum is the most insecure form of permit, especially in Germany, where the society is currently getting more and more hostile to migration, including labeling countries like Afghanistan as "safe countries of origin" and organizing deportations with the Taliban.
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Top level scientists/professors are like famous sports players. Recruiting them is a prestige boost which attracts students and employees, but also can have very direct results if they manage some breakthrough or novel solution.
Talking about labs. Building, organizing and running those is far harder than spending money on equipment usually.
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I'm doing my part fleeing to Sweden, granted I'm a programmer and game dev so not a scientist. I'm done letting the US profit off my skills though
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No no no, you're trying to be a better place than the US. Stop talking like them.
This conversation is a retard magnet, unfortunately.
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Y'all need data analysts?
Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?
I know a guy...
You may have a look to Bordeaux's University. There are litterally school and research center for wine
https://www.u-bordeaux.fr/universite/organisation-et-fonctionnement/composantes-de-formation/isvv
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Germany needs plenty. But only the cheap ones with expert knowledge. That’s not how they would word it though
Well, the correct german word is to say 'Fachkräftemangel' which in my experience translates to 'We need someone with 20+ years of experience, that we can pay like an intern'
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I voted for Trump and have to take Life Saving Medication once a week and I DONT CARE! There's NOTHING Scientists have done that GOD cant!
This so called "GOD", is he in the room right now ?
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i bet canadians would not be so angry if people like them (colour, religion, mindset!) would be the immigrants but according to this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_immigration_statistics60% are people from third world cuntries.
i cant blame the canadians!
You should probably go back to whatever hole conservatives hide in nowadays. Xitter seems more your speed for trolling
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dude, as much as i'm anti-immigration, you're overdoing it, and also, your proposals are ineffective.
in germany, for example, the population that immigrated since 2012 makes up approx. 3% of the total population. that means that the population is roughly 3% larger than it would be without that immigration.
that is what you should be talking about. 3% larger population means higher workforce (supply of labor), and therefore lower wages (prices for labor). That is because the immigrants add almost no demand for labor (since they have a low buying power).
Demand for labor is mainly driven by growth, and we've had two big waves of growth since 1800: Quantitative (industrialization) and qualitative (IT work). Since both of these two waves end their growth approx. now, the demand for labor goes down. There's no point in importing more labor force, it would only make the wages go down. That is what you have to talk about: the decreasing wages through the import of cheap labor. It's essentially wage-dumping in the own country. That is what the people should be talking about. Not racism. We're not better people than them, we just need to get the workforce smaller to drive the wages up.
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Totally would have joined them if it wasn't for my stupid bitch of an ex-wife.
Good luck guys.
I’m in the same boat. Just be consistent and persistent. It’s a lot harder that you’re divorced with kids, but you could make a good argument for the school quality in France for your kids if they’re young enough to adapt to French. Study the language as much as possible before moving there; the closer you are to fluency, the easier you’ll have it. Paris is a crutch, explore small cities to practice your French.
