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    https://jellyfin.org/

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    I've been testing out jellyfin for the last couple months but it doesn't really fill the void of this specific feature that's being locked behind a pay wall. If anyone has good recommendations for securely and reliably hosting jellyfin behind SSL and auth with email password resets where I don't have to worry about it as much as Plex.

    I use jellyfin locally but for a handful of remote clients I have I may well block off their access they're not going to be able to figure out my hand spun services and wall of text.

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      Same. My wife also just asked me to get a bunch of audio books too...so looks like I have to set up that now

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      I would recommend audiobookshelf for the audiobooks, especially if you have your stuff running in docker. It seemed to me like the solutions to force Plex or jellyfin to do books were a bit more hacky than I wanted.

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        We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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        Well that's disappointing

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          We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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          Jellyfin FTW!

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            We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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            Can't wait to see a 40 minutes rant on LTT where he will feel betrayed and teach everyone how to use jellyfin

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            • A [email protected]

              The default Jellyfin client isn't great for audiobooks.
              For Apple iOS you might wanna look at https://github.com/LeoKlaus/plappa
              For Android I would look at https://github.com/advplyr/audiobookshelf
              Personally I just download the audiobooks from Jellyfin and play it in https://f-droid.org/packages/com.prangesoftwaresolutions.audioanchor/

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              Thank you

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                " When running your own Plex Media Server as a subscriber, other users to whom you have granted access can also stream from the server (whether local or remote), without ANY additional charge"

                So as a plex pass holder it shouldn't affect any of my (current?) users? Am I reading this right.

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                I had my pitchfork out and ticket to Jellyfinville in-hand. I read the blog post and saw this myself. I'm wondering if it's a matter of time before they want to screw over my family though

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                • A [email protected]

                  I mean, except for Tizen OS isn't most available? You can find the client for Android, Android TV, Windows, Linux (Flatpak), macos, apple ios, and more.
                  https://jellyfin.org/downloads/clients/

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                  I was just able to download it on every PC I have

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                  • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                    Don’t ever connect a “smart” tv to the internet. It’s only going to become shit and steal your data.

                    Raspberry Pi, old pc or any kind of other external player will always be better for connectivity and control.

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                    While I agree with you 100% and every tv in my home is under this mantra I get where the parent comment is coming from. Family members and friends visiting have asked about access to my Jellyfin library and they aren’t necessarily keen on buying additional hardware, aren’t willing to educate themselves on setting up options that would be objectively better for connectivity, privacy, control, etc.

                    They just want an app in their TVs app store. It’s convenient and easy. I disagree with them but I don’t blame them. It’s human nature to go for the option that results in expending the least amount of effort. But then they don’t get my sweet Jellyfin library. If you cant run the client or kodi then I can’t help you, sorry.

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                      It looks like as long as the host has a Plex pass, this doesn't change much. It is a regression of service, which sucks, but there are viable alternatives for those unable or unwilling to pay. And honestly, jellyfin is the clear winner in that case and always has been.

                      Now, if they start to charge my friends and family for access to my media after I have already paid them for their lifetime subscription, then I'll grab a pitchfork with the crowd.

                      Also, why not run both and be ready? The resources required are minimal if you're running via docker, just some extra RAM and a negligible amount of compute for overhead on library maintenance tasks.

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                      Same. I'm not switching to Jellyfin yet either - mostly because of my boomer parents - but this is getting close to the tipping point for me

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                        We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                        Emby is a one time purchase for a lifetime subscription and I don't regret it for one second. It's open source and free, but some features are locked behind purchase. Worth every penny, in my opinion.

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                          I mean, except for Tizen OS isn't most available? You can find the client for Android, Android TV, Windows, Linux (Flatpak), macos, apple ios, and more.
                          https://jellyfin.org/downloads/clients/

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                          Linux (Flatpak)

                          So, no, then.

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                            Did they? Or is that still the old hack of "just download the raw file. Your tablet is just a computer"?

                            Because I didn't see it advertised on the main web page and a quick google got me to https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin/discussions/364 which is open and abandoned tickets for the ios apps.

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                            You might be right, it might play in an external player. I don't recall that or didn't notice. We're a few months from the last camping season. If it does play in an external player, seems like an inconvenience vs a dealbreaker, but I get it. We all have our things. I would argue that it's maybe a big deal for you and not a majority of users. Maybe a small but focused minority.

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                              I agree, but having looked down this road, finding a quality external player that users will understand and is inexpensive is ... not easy.

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                              Facebook made one. They attached a gorgeous voice-controlled video-chat-on-tv setup to it, and released it just as they lost all consumer trust.

                              Then they decided it wasn't selling.

                              So they killed it instead of open-sourcing it

                              just saying.

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                                Linux (Flatpak)

                                So, no, then.

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                                No idea what Flatpak is, much?

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                                • G [email protected]

                                  I used a Cloudflare tunnel for security (no open ports) but that's for people with limited tech ability mostly. Everyone else I've got connected with a tailscale node.

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                                  Careful with that I think it’s against their TOS to do that due to the large volumes of data video streaming takes.

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                                    Alright, so I have had Jellyfin installed for years now, but my primary issue is that most devices myself or my users use lack official, readily-available clients. For example, the Samsung TV app is a developer mode install. Last I looked, nobody has put a build into the store.

                                    I really want to use Jellyfin, but I feel like my users simply can't. I'm interested in others' experiences here that could help.

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                                    I use Jellyfin client on my new Samsung TV via a Google TV dongle (ONN tv, $25 at Walmart). Seems to work well.

                                    My only complaint is the stream volume has been very low after a recent update. Downsampling helps but seems like it should be necessary.

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                                      We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                                      I’m inferring from the language of the post that OP is against this policy change, but I’m not sure I follow the argument. Why is it problematic that Plex is asking for money?

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                                        We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                                        Wait why did in think this was already the case?

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                                          Did they? Or is that still the old hack of "just download the raw file. Your tablet is just a computer"?

                                          Because I didn't see it advertised on the main web page and a quick google got me to https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin/discussions/364 which is open and abandoned tickets for the ios apps.

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                                          Oh no! Please GOD, anything but tHe rAw fIlE!!

                                          Seriously though, wtf did I just read? That can't possibly be your real stance, can it?

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