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Plex is locking remote streaming behind a subscription in April

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    We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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    I gotta be honest, when I look at the problem pragmatically, it'll be a lot easier to pay $20 a year than to switch to jellyfin and get all my users to figure out how to install clients and make it work for them.

    I'm already at the point in my life where my primary concern is making things work smoothly, and if I need to throw money at something to make it work smoothly, the choice is a no brainer. (At least for some values of "money")

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      I gotta be honest, when I look at the problem pragmatically, it'll be a lot easier to pay $20 a year than to switch to jellyfin and get all my users to figure out how to install clients and make it work for them.

      I'm already at the point in my life where my primary concern is making things work smoothly, and if I need to throw money at something to make it work smoothly, the choice is a no brainer. (At least for some values of "money")

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      Jellyfin works in the browser just like Plex.

      And for now you can do that, but that's not the first, and not the last update trying to prevent people selling access to their server.

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        Plex actually does have streaming services. The ones we've never asked for. And live tv.

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        But the blog post from Plex was specifically talking about charging for remotely accessing your own files. So your point is irrelevant to the discussion.

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          Forget the Auth, use VPN profiles as access controls. Give them to trusted folks and you're gold.

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          Dumb question but should there be VPNs operating on both ends, server and client? Or just the client because I'm guessing the server might change the connection address.

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            Jellyfin works in the browser just like Plex.

            And for now you can do that, but that's not the first, and not the last update trying to prevent people selling access to their server.

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            Yeah, but jellyfin's clients apps are all pretty bad. And I say this as a jellyfin user.

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              Jellyfin works in the browser just like Plex.

              And for now you can do that, but that's not the first, and not the last update trying to prevent people selling access to their server.

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              It definitely has some issues for ease of use. For example Jellyfin for some reason will not find the server on my network in any of the client apps, and typing in a URL by hand with a TV remote is not fun.

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                I absolutely love that Emby is such a third thought that they don’t even get a mention anymore. They fucked their loyal users over so much that they don’t even get mentioned anymore. Can’t wait for plex to suffer the same fate

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                I almost exclusively used both through Android with Chromecast, and I must say, I've had way more trouble with Emby than Plex.

                Also on smart TVs, the Plex apps just have way fewer issues in my experience.

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                  We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                  Well this is a good reason to finish my migration to Jellyfin I think.

                  I only use remote streaming a couple times per year, so paying for plex pass just for that seems a bit silly.

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                    We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                    Why would you expect this to NOT be paid? It requires them to be running servers to stream the media through, I wouldn't expect this to be a free feature.

                    I dislike Plex for several reasons, but asking for payment for stuff that costs them money is completely justified.

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                      Its quite annoying how licensing is tied to devices. I can't even sign in after reinstalling my OS.

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                      Interesting. Thanks for the warning I’ll make note of this one

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                        We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                        They seem to be getting a lot of hate for this, but Plex is not FOSS... They have the roots but they currently have like 100 paid employees and are trying to make a business out of it. They have to do something to make money to pay people every month. My $75 10 years ago isn't going to do much for that... The fact that they've made it this far without folding is impressive.

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                          Emby subscription costs a lot even if you just want to use it on a home server. It can work without subscription but will display a warning before playback. Jellyfin is free.

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                          Yeah the warning is definitely annoying and especially the ten second counter on it pisses me off. But honestly I would much rather see an unskippable ad for the premium version of the program I am currently using and enjoying than an unskippable ad for literally anything else

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                            If only jellyfin had an app on Tizen, I'd be all aboard.

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                            Does this "tizen" not have a web browser?

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                              If only jellyfin had an app on Tizen, I'd be all aboard.

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                              It's not super easy, but you can install it on tizen tvs by enabling developer mode. I was able to follow this walk-through to get it on a new TV for my relatives.

                              https://github.com/Georift/install-jellyfin-tizen

                              Since their TV was newer, I had to do extra steps to create a custom certificate.

                              The whole process took a while, but it's doable.

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                                We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                                So then Photoprism is going to lock my photos and ask my mom for money to see them?

                                Its selfhosting, not freehosting for yet another asshole company.

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                                  It definitely has some issues for ease of use. For example Jellyfin for some reason will not find the server on my network in any of the client apps, and typing in a URL by hand with a TV remote is not fun.

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                                  I use a firestick since it has app support

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                                    Does this "tizen" not have a web browser?

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                                    It has, but browsing using tv remote is a nightmare

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                                      If only jellyfin had an app on Tizen, I'd be all aboard.

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                                      Firestick has a built in app which is how I open it on my tv

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                                        We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                                        Can’t say I have a huge issue with this - Plex isn’t FOSS and the infrastructure to make this happen isn’t free. Other options are available if you don’t want to pay the fee.

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                                          Jellyfin works in the browser just like Plex.

                                          And for now you can do that, but that's not the first, and not the last update trying to prevent people selling access to their server.

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                                          Browser apps are very annoying though. The support for some codecs (like HEVC) is usually worse in a browser.

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