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  • oderus@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

    They aren't charging users to cover their costs to stream your data from your server. It's to help them with their developper costs. Transcoding is something your server does and it's only unlocked with Plex Pass so if you don't have that, you can't use it anyway. I have only 4k movies so if I want to watch them at any resolution smaller than 4k, I need transcoding which was the primary reason I got the pass. They can also proxy your connection in case you have issues connecting directly so they are somewhat using their own resources for that. They offer a great service at a very low price, much lower than Netflix and it's much better. Everyone that connects to my plex server love the experience so it's well worth it for me. If it's not worth it for you, that's cool. Use something like JF and then deal with a lack of device support and any other issues that come with JF. I hear it's a also a great service but I also hear there are more issues with JF than Plex so I'm happy with Plex.

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    So, my users transcode just fine without Plex Pass. I believe. You are referring to enabling hardware accelerated transcoding, which is a Plex Pass feature. You don’t need Plex Pass to do basic transcoding. That’s a free feature.

    As for the proxied connection, I believe. You are referring to Relay. Thats such a low quality that its recommended to disable it and that’s the first thing I do on my PMS.

    I believe Infuse (for the ATV4K) will be a decent workaround in the meantime, since it seems to allow remote play from Plex servers without charging, and plays stuff better than the default Plex app anyway, fwiw (like Atmos content).

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      So, my users transcode just fine without Plex Pass. I believe. You are referring to enabling hardware accelerated transcoding, which is a Plex Pass feature. You don’t need Plex Pass to do basic transcoding. That’s a free feature.

      As for the proxied connection, I believe. You are referring to Relay. Thats such a low quality that its recommended to disable it and that’s the first thing I do on my PMS.

      I believe Infuse (for the ATV4K) will be a decent workaround in the meantime, since it seems to allow remote play from Plex servers without charging, and plays stuff better than the default Plex app anyway, fwiw (like Atmos content).

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      You could be right about the CPU transcode vs. GPU transcode. It was a long time ago when I setup my Plex but I do recall having performance issues with CPU transcoding. Either way it's a valid point.

      I had to use relay only once at a Hotel and it was decent enough but the TV they had was pretty lame so I couldn't tell how bad Relay was vs. the TV quality. Either way I got to watch what I wanted without commercials.

      Never heard of ATV4K but I'll check it out. Thanks.

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      • mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

        Given the recent news about Plex soon charging for remote access, I wanted to finish up my switch to Jellyfin.

        What tools/methods have you all used to migrate watch history to Jellyfin?

        I have a few family members in there, and would like to get everything switched over without resetting their watch history.

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        If someone wants my Lifetime Plex account they can have it.

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          I think this is the tool you are looking for: https://github.com/luigi311/JellyPlex-Watched

          I haven't used it myself but I plan on it eventually when I do make the switch.

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          I recently made the switch, worked pretty well 🙂

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          • B [email protected]

            I think this is the tool you are looking for: https://github.com/luigi311/JellyPlex-Watched

            I haven't used it myself but I plan on it eventually when I do make the switch.

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            I think that's the one i use, I had a few mobile users not be able to watch plex in the past so I installed jellyfin and that so they could go back and forth

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            • mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

              Given the recent news about Plex soon charging for remote access, I wanted to finish up my switch to Jellyfin.

              What tools/methods have you all used to migrate watch history to Jellyfin?

              I have a few family members in there, and would like to get everything switched over without resetting their watch history.

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              I think you're looking for https://github.com/arabcoders/watchstate Watchstate will pull from Plex and migrate it into a Jellyfin instance. Emby is also supported. Works with multiple users as well, just do yourself a favor and make sure all usernames match up!!!

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              • J [email protected]

                Well, the addition of Plex Movies and Live Channels is certainly shittier.

                What’s the reason for $120 to stream my local files to a friend or family member? What exactly does Plex do in this process that would warrant a cost?

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                pay the license costs for the codecs your using...

                granted... none of us care about that. but thats what they're doing. also developement on the software (for good and bad)

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                • oderus@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                  Crying about a non-issue isn't exactly going to change anything is it? Plex is an awesome service or you wouldn't have been using it.

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                  I’m not using it. I’m a pirate, why would I pay some corp for the privilege? That’s just stupid.

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                  • mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

                    Given the recent news about Plex soon charging for remote access, I wanted to finish up my switch to Jellyfin.

                    What tools/methods have you all used to migrate watch history to Jellyfin?

                    I have a few family members in there, and would like to get everything switched over without resetting their watch history.

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                    Not the answer to your question but thanks for the reminder to cancel

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                    • X [email protected]

                      Not really. Or at all. Both of those are multi-purpose devices which you can use for other things. A plex license is singularly for Plex. It doesn't do anything more for you than to stream your own media, something you can already accomplish for free.

                      Of all the examples you could have chosen you essentially picked the worst two.

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                      It doesn't do anything more for you than to stream your own media

                      Sure it does, which is why we're not all using VLC to stream our media.

                      Furthermore, they do provide a simple way to share our media with friends and family via their authentication servers along with their relay servers if direct access to your server goes down for whatever reason which have associated costs. I have a lot of my own gripes about Plex, but this particular change is probably at the bottom of the list, and I think acting like this software has zero value is disparaging not only Plex but Jellyfin and the army of volunteers over there working hard to make their product better for you and everyone else at no cost. You're essentially saying all their work is worthless since their product accomplishes all the same things as Plex.

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                      • T [email protected]

                        It’s not the same at all.

                        Plex practically doubled their prices to access features that users previously had for free.

                        Can’t remember the last time a HDD manufacturer put previously free features behind a paywall or when a Mullvad doubled its prices.

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                        How have they doubled their prices? The monthly fee and lifetime license are still the same price and they've always charged for Android and iOS playback if you didn't have the Plex Pass. I won't argue that this change is a good thing but I don't think it's anywhere near as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. They aren't changing anyone now who streams from a server that has the Plex Pass so now my users can watch on their mobile devices for free using a license I paid for once close to a decade ago.

                        HDD manufacturers have been increasing their prices as of late for the same products that were previously cheaper, and Mullvad is still charging you the same monthly fee even though they've removed important features like port forwarding, so what's the difference? Hosting a server has costs associated with it and this is another one of those costs if you want to use their completely optional solution to use and share your library.

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                        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                          If someone wants my Lifetime Plex account they can have it.

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                          I’ll take it if you haven’t already given it away. This Plex change is not great for me, since I’m using remote access. I’ve got a Jellyfin server too, but I’m finding it less convenient for me, mostly for various nitpick reasons

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                          • oderus@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                            Just buy the lifetime Plex Pass before the price hike and you're golden.

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                            That would probably work, until Plex decides to introduce another subscription tier on top of the lifetime license, and/or demand more money from its paying users. I could totally see them doing that

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                            • C [email protected]

                              How have they doubled their prices? The monthly fee and lifetime license are still the same price and they've always charged for Android and iOS playback if you didn't have the Plex Pass. I won't argue that this change is a good thing but I don't think it's anywhere near as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. They aren't changing anyone now who streams from a server that has the Plex Pass so now my users can watch on their mobile devices for free using a license I paid for once close to a decade ago.

                              HDD manufacturers have been increasing their prices as of late for the same products that were previously cheaper, and Mullvad is still charging you the same monthly fee even though they've removed important features like port forwarding, so what's the difference? Hosting a server has costs associated with it and this is another one of those costs if you want to use their completely optional solution to use and share your library.

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                              How have they doubled their prices?

                              https://www.pcworld.com/article/2642674/plexs-lifetime-subscription-plan-is-getting-a-massive-price-hike.html

                              HDD manufacturers have been increasing their prices as of late for the same products that were previously cheaper

                              Nope. Most recent delta is a decrease of $0.0000022 per MB. And the general trend has been decreasing for decades.

                              my users can watch on their mobile devices for free using a license I paid for once close to a decade ago.

                              You sound like a boomer talking about the house they bought decades ago for $75,000.

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                              • saik0shinigami@lemmy.saik0.comS [email protected]

                                pay the license costs for the codecs your using...

                                granted... none of us care about that. but thats what they're doing. also developement on the software (for good and bad)

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                                Doesn’t the player itself handle the codecs, not the Plex Media Server?

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                                  Doesn’t the player itself handle the codecs, not the Plex Media Server?

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                                  Transcoding...

                                  Since Plex is distributing software that can re-encode video, the codecs that comes with the software must be licensed for many of the codecs.

                                  Here's an article that covers some of the shenanigans around h264... Now realize there's at least a dozen others as well that are likely just as screwy.
                                  https://jina-liu.medium.com/settle-your-questions-about-h-264-license-cost-once-and-for-all-hopefully-a058c2149256

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                                  • tron@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                                    I think you're looking for https://github.com/arabcoders/watchstate Watchstate will pull from Plex and migrate it into a Jellyfin instance. Emby is also supported. Works with multiple users as well, just do yourself a favor and make sure all usernames match up!!!

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                                    I just used this to migrate from Emby to Jellyfin, works really well. I already have tracked setup on my main account but for my kid nothing goes out to the cloud so their account was all done with watchstate. It was also handy to keep Emby and Jellyfin in sync during the transition.

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                                    • H [email protected]

                                      All the folks saying "just buy the lifetime pass" gonna be in for a big disappointment in about 5 years

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                                      If we got 5yr it's more than paid for itself. Even FOSS needs support - stop whining.

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                                      • oderus@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                                        Just buy the lifetime Plex Pass before the price hike and you're golden.

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                                        BuT I wAnT mY fRrrreEeeeEEeeee

                                        These whiny people should stay with Plex if only to save FOSS devs the headache of dealing with them. They aren't going to support them either.

                                        (Thanks for helping clarify)

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                                        • tron@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                                          I think you're looking for https://github.com/arabcoders/watchstate Watchstate will pull from Plex and migrate it into a Jellyfin instance. Emby is also supported. Works with multiple users as well, just do yourself a favor and make sure all usernames match up!!!

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                                          This tool is neat for updating watched status live amongst backends AFTER it’s been set up, but have never gotten it to work to bring a new back end in line with an existing one. I moved from Plex to Jellyfin, then again from Jellyfin to Emby and both times it only marked some of my watched content as played on whatever the “new” system is. And not even on a show by show basis either. If you go from Plex where you’ve watched every episode of a season of a show that has 10 episodes, when it exports that status to Jellyfin or Emby, it’ll mark episodes 1,2,6,9, and 10 as played but not the others. It’s remarkably consistent in this behavior and even after scrapping the DB and starting over it always behaves the exact same.

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