The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans
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Like, I expected that behind closed doors they all call it nonsense
No, they are actually stupid enough to believe the shit they are saying.
They have been carefully assembled to make Trump look smart in comparison. It wasn't an easy task.
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They're going to try and ruin this journalist for embarrassing them, that's what will happen.
Yep. Sue him and his paper to kingdom come.
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U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
This kind of incompetence at the highest government levels doesn't surprise me anymore. Remember back in 2018 when Hawaiin government officials sent out a false alert of an incoming ballistic missile strike? Shortly after that some pictures surfaced of the computer used to send out the alert and the fucking password was written on a post-it note and stuck to the computer.
I think we all want to believe that governments operate at the highest levels of efficiency, security and intelligence because thats what is shown to us in movies and TV but the reality is there are idiots involved at even the highest levels.
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Well at least they use Signal.. (half /s)
I mean, signal (on a personal device???) is fine for personal use.
It is not fine when you are the target of foreign espionage on the scale of the VP or head of DoD.
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They want to show that they really believe in those bullshit prayers, that they are good Christians or something like that. When behind the scenes they don't give a shit about religion.
This would be so much worse. They violated laws and leaked classified top secret information to prove they are good Christians?
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Prove it.
Doesn’t the timing of the strike prove it?
And it’s also been semi acknowledged officially.
Not sure what more you want.
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The Hegseth message goes on to state, “Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive;
Lolz
We are currently clean on OPSEC.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the sheer ineptitude of these fucking Nazis.
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U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
this is why you shouldn't text while drunk.
and shouldn't drink on the job.
and shouldn't employ peter cunting hegseth.
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Yep. Sue him and his paper to kingdom come.
I think elimination as in “suicided” seems more likely. I wouldn’t hold my breath when it comes to not taking it so lightly with the journalist, and I am still wondering if this is all satire. But accidentally including a journalist number in signal app is insane. It’s a like a bogus screen cap from Idiocracy.
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Lmao called it 3 months ago.
https://lemmy.world/post/23297450/14043985I'm gonna call it again, it's gonna happen again.
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This is absolutely staggering. I’m still trying to process the fact that senior U.S. officials—people at the highest levels of government—were casually texting war plans over Signal, an app that’s not even approved for classified communications. Not only that, but they accidentally added a journalist to the group chat. And then? Just carried on like nothing happened. No one noticed. No one asked questions. They dropped operational details, discussed strategy, named targets, and then capped it all off with high-five emojis.
It’s not just irresponsible—it’s surreal. This isn’t a parody or a leaked TV script. This happened. They talked about military strikes the same way people coordinate a fantasy football draft. And then, as if to hammer home just how broken our national security culture has become, they celebrated the bombing of a foreign country with emojis. Fire, flags, praying hands, muscle arms. Like they’d just won a pickup basketball game.
What’s worse—what really makes my blood boil—is that nothing will come of it. Nothing. There won’t be hearings. No one will be fired. There won’t even be a slap on the wrist. The fact that a sitting Secretary of Defense might have violated the Espionage Act by leaking sensitive war plans over an unsecured app to a journalist should be a full-blown national scandal. Instead? Silence. Shrugs. Maybe a Fox News segment praising how "tough" the response was.
It’s the normalization of absurdity. It’s government by group chat, with the fate of lives—American and otherwise—being tossed around like a Twitter thread. And the most horrifying part? They all seem to think this is fine. Routine. Standard operating procedure.
This is bigger than partisan politics. This is about the breakdown of basic standards—of competence, of professionalism, of decency. If this doesn’t trigger national outrage, if this doesn’t result in real consequences, then we’ve officially accepted that chaos, recklessness, and emoji warfare are the new norm.
I’m furious. And if you're not, you should be too.
Haha you guys will forget this by next week. Nothing is going to happen.
Could you imagine if this was the other way around? Then heads will roll. Democrats will whine and then move on in less than a week.
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U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
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They're going to try and ruin this journalist for embarrassing them, that's what will happen.
You think now that they sent him classified information that his phone and any devices he ever touched are now confiscated?
Good thing he's not like a journalist with sources. Total accident too. Mistakes happen
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This is absolutely staggering. I’m still trying to process the fact that senior U.S. officials—people at the highest levels of government—were casually texting war plans over Signal, an app that’s not even approved for classified communications. Not only that, but they accidentally added a journalist to the group chat. And then? Just carried on like nothing happened. No one noticed. No one asked questions. They dropped operational details, discussed strategy, named targets, and then capped it all off with high-five emojis.
It’s not just irresponsible—it’s surreal. This isn’t a parody or a leaked TV script. This happened. They talked about military strikes the same way people coordinate a fantasy football draft. And then, as if to hammer home just how broken our national security culture has become, they celebrated the bombing of a foreign country with emojis. Fire, flags, praying hands, muscle arms. Like they’d just won a pickup basketball game.
What’s worse—what really makes my blood boil—is that nothing will come of it. Nothing. There won’t be hearings. No one will be fired. There won’t even be a slap on the wrist. The fact that a sitting Secretary of Defense might have violated the Espionage Act by leaking sensitive war plans over an unsecured app to a journalist should be a full-blown national scandal. Instead? Silence. Shrugs. Maybe a Fox News segment praising how "tough" the response was.
It’s the normalization of absurdity. It’s government by group chat, with the fate of lives—American and otherwise—being tossed around like a Twitter thread. And the most horrifying part? They all seem to think this is fine. Routine. Standard operating procedure.
This is bigger than partisan politics. This is about the breakdown of basic standards—of competence, of professionalism, of decency. If this doesn’t trigger national outrage, if this doesn’t result in real consequences, then we’ve officially accepted that chaos, recklessness, and emoji warfare are the new norm.
I’m furious. And if you're not, you should be too.
Putting it on personal mobile devices allows it 1) to be more easily exfiltrared to their foreign affiliates, and 2) allows them to get around FOIA. I'm sure most of their actions are being carried out in a similar manner.
Even if we ever do wrest power from them, we will have to go along without ever knowing everything they have broken.
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Is it weird that the most shocking thing to me in all of this is that they all act like facebook boomers even in "private" operational meetings? "I will say a prayer for victory," coming out of fucking vance's fingers (and then prayer emojis from everyone else) is just fucking insanity. Like, I expected that behind closed doors they all call it nonsense and act like 4chan dipshits.
The mass leaking of operational information is totally to be expected. Just look at russians and Telegram.
Isn't this to avoid FOIA
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Isn't this to avoid FOIA
Unlikely.
There are plenty of ways that statements and planning related to military operations and diplomacy can be indefinitely immune to FOIA. And anything sensitive (of which this definitely was) will be automagically immune for a duration depending on the kind of discussion it was.
Nah. This is just sheer and utter laziness. They didn't want to have to meet in person, go to a few VTC rooms to have a conf call, or sit at their fancy computers to send emails over a secure line. They just wanted to text on their phones while doing whatever else (dime to a dollar: at least one of them was in public).
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This is so fucked up in OPSEC terms, but reading everyday news and I'm totally not surprised. If an adversary intercept such messaging before operation you can get a new batch of "losers" arriving home in bodybags.
For anyone who missed the "losers" reference
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/09/03/report-trump-disparaged-us-war-dead-as-losers-suckers/ -
U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
This stupid story has r/conservative actively chiding the trump administration. Lol
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This is absolutely staggering. I’m still trying to process the fact that senior U.S. officials—people at the highest levels of government—were casually texting war plans over Signal, an app that’s not even approved for classified communications. Not only that, but they accidentally added a journalist to the group chat. And then? Just carried on like nothing happened. No one noticed. No one asked questions. They dropped operational details, discussed strategy, named targets, and then capped it all off with high-five emojis.
It’s not just irresponsible—it’s surreal. This isn’t a parody or a leaked TV script. This happened. They talked about military strikes the same way people coordinate a fantasy football draft. And then, as if to hammer home just how broken our national security culture has become, they celebrated the bombing of a foreign country with emojis. Fire, flags, praying hands, muscle arms. Like they’d just won a pickup basketball game.
What’s worse—what really makes my blood boil—is that nothing will come of it. Nothing. There won’t be hearings. No one will be fired. There won’t even be a slap on the wrist. The fact that a sitting Secretary of Defense might have violated the Espionage Act by leaking sensitive war plans over an unsecured app to a journalist should be a full-blown national scandal. Instead? Silence. Shrugs. Maybe a Fox News segment praising how "tough" the response was.
It’s the normalization of absurdity. It’s government by group chat, with the fate of lives—American and otherwise—being tossed around like a Twitter thread. And the most horrifying part? They all seem to think this is fine. Routine. Standard operating procedure.
This is bigger than partisan politics. This is about the breakdown of basic standards—of competence, of professionalism, of decency. If this doesn’t trigger national outrage, if this doesn’t result in real consequences, then we’ve officially accepted that chaos, recklessness, and emoji warfare are the new norm.
I’m furious. And if you're not, you should be too.
Man--you use a LOT of long hyphens--How do you even do that?--The long dash--I can't find it anywhere--Do you have a special keyboard?--
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U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
Ah. I see that the Trump administration has managed to pull the same thing as the Bolsonaro administration did.