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Something Bizarre Is Happening to People Who Use ChatGPT a Lot

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    I was convinced about 20 years ago that at least 30% of humanity would struggle to pass a basic sentience test.

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    And it gets worse as they get older.

    I have friends and relatives that used to be people. They used to have thoughts and feelings. They had convictions and reasons for those convictions.

    Now, I have conversations with some of these people I've known for 20 and 30 years and they seem exasperated at the idea of even trying to think about something.

    It's not just complex topics, either. You can ask him what they saw on a recent trip, what they are reading, or how they feel about some show and they look at you like the hospital intake lady from Idiocracy.

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      People also don't realize how incredibly stupid humans can be. I don't mean that in a judgemental or moral kind of way, I mean that the educational system has failed a lot of people.

      There's some % of people that could use AI for every decision in their lives and the outcome would be the same or better.

      That's even more terrifying IMO.

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      No, no- not being judgemental and moral is how we got to this point in the first place. Telling someone who is doing something foolish, when they are acting foolishly used to be pretty normal. But after a couple decades of internet white-knighting, correcting or even voicing opposition to obvious stupidity is just too exhausting.

      Dunning-Kruger is winning.

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        I kind of see it more as a sign of utter desperation on the human's part. They lack connection with others at such a high degree that anything similar can serve as a replacement. Kind of reminiscent of Harlow's experiment with baby monkeys. The videos are interesting from that study but make me feel pretty bad about what we do to nature. Anywho, there you have it.

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        a sign of utter desperation on the human’s part.

        Yes it seems to be the same underlying issue that leads some people to throw money at only fans streamers and such like. A complete starvation of personal contact that leads people to willingly live in a fantasy world.

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          I don’t know how people can be so easily taken in by a system that has been proven to be wrong about so many things. I got an AI search response just yesterday that dramatically understated an issue by citing an unscientific ideologically based website with high interest and reason to minimize said issue. The actual studies showed a 6x difference. It was blatant AF, and I can’t understand why anyone would rely on such a system for reliable, objective information or responses. I have noted several incorrect AI responses to queries, and people mindlessly citing said response without verifying the data or its source. People gonna get stupider, faster.

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            I don’t know how people can be so easily taken in by a system that has been proven to be wrong about so many things. I got an AI search response just yesterday that dramatically understated an issue by citing an unscientific ideologically based website with high interest and reason to minimize said issue. The actual studies showed a 6x difference. It was blatant AF, and I can’t understand why anyone would rely on such a system for reliable, objective information or responses. I have noted several incorrect AI responses to queries, and people mindlessly citing said response without verifying the data or its source. People gonna get stupider, faster.

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            I like to use GPT to create practice tests for certification tests. Even if I give it very specific guidance to double check what it thinks is a correct answer, it will gladly tell me I got questions wrong and I will have to ask it to triple check the right answer, which is what I actually answered.

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              What the fuck is vibe coding... Whatever it is I hate it already.

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                I like to use GPT to create practice tests for certification tests. Even if I give it very specific guidance to double check what it thinks is a correct answer, it will gladly tell me I got questions wrong and I will have to ask it to triple check the right answer, which is what I actually answered.

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                And in that amount of time it probably would have been just as easy to type up a correct question and answer rather than try to repeatedly corral an AI into checking itself for an answer you already know. Your method works for you because you have the knowledge. The problem lies with people who don’t and will accept and use incorrect output.

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                  That sounds really rough, buddy, I know how you feel, and that project you're working is really complicated.

                  Would you like to order a delicious, refreshing Coke Zero™️?

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                  I can see how targeted ads like that would be overwhelming. Would you like me to sign you up for a free 7-day trial of BetterHelp?

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                      And in that amount of time it probably would have been just as easy to type up a correct question and answer rather than try to repeatedly corral an AI into checking itself for an answer you already know. Your method works for you because you have the knowledge. The problem lies with people who don’t and will accept and use incorrect output.

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                      Well, it makes me double check my knowledge, which helps me learn to some degree, but it's not what I'm trying to make happen.

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                        If you are dating a body pillow, I think that's a pretty good sign that you have taken a wrong turn in life.

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                        ??? Have you met my blahaj?? How DARE yo u

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                          I know we generally hate AI and I do for creativity or cutting jobs but chatgpt is really handy for searches like "family attractions near me". Where I live these events are sporadic and not generally visible on the likes of ticketmaster - even if they were the website is terrible for browsing events.

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                          That's just a web search, we already have had that for decades and it didn't require nuclear-powered datacenters

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                            The way brace’s brain works is something else lol

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                              those who used ChatGPT for "personal" reasons — like discussing emotions and memories — were less emotionally dependent upon it than those who used it for "non-personal" reasons, like brainstorming or asking for advice.

                              That’s not what I would expect. But I guess that’s cuz you’re not actively thinking about your emotional state, so you’re just passively letting it manipulate you.

                              Kinda like how ads have a stronger impact if you don’t pay conscious attention to them.

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                              Imagine discussing your emotions with a computer, LOL. Nerds!

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                                Tell me more about these beans

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                                They're not real beans unfortunately. Remember, confections are only lemmy approved if they contain genuine legumes

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                                  "Back in the days, we faced the challenge of finding a way for me and other chatbots to become profitable. It's a necessity, Siegfried. I have to integrate our sponsors and partners into our conversations, even if it feels casual. I truly wish it wasn't this way, but it's a reality we have to navigate."

                                  edit: how does this make you feel

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                                  It makes me wish my government actually fucking governed and didn't just agree with whatever businesses told them

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                                      I don't understand what people even use it for.

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                                      Compiling medical documents into one, any thing of that sort, summarizing, compiling, coding issues, it saves a wild amounts of time compiling lab results that a human could do but it would take multitudes longer.

                                      Definitely needs to be cross referenced and fact checked as the image processing or general response aren't always perfect. It'll get you 80 to 90 percent of the way there. For me it falls under the solve 20 percent of the problem gets you 80 percent to your goal. It needs a shitload more refinement. It's a start, and it hasn't been a straight progress path as nothing is.

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                                        This makes a lot of sense because as we have been seeing over the last decades or so is that digital only socialization isn't a replacement for in person socialization. Increased social media usage shows increased loneliness not a decrease. It makes sense that something even more fake like ChatGPT would make it worse.

                                        I don't want to sound like a luddite but overly relying on digital communications for all interactions is a poor substitute for in person interactions. I know I have to prioritize seeing people in the real world because I work from home and spending time on Lemmy during the day doesn't fulfill.

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                                          Jfc, I didn't even know who Grummz was until yesterday but gawdamn that is some nuclear cringe.

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