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  • N [email protected]

    With friends like him, who needs enemies

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    With friends like him who needs enemas

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    • 4 [email protected]

      What the fuck do tariffs do other than make shit more expensive for US residents?

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      America is the largest consumer state on planet earth. A huge amount of foreign economies rely heavily on export to the United States and tariffs can do a LOT of damage. Trump knows these tariffs are a huge bargaining chip, but it’s the type of chip you can only use to this degree once. And he’s cashing it in for… his own political clout. The natural response to this that we’re already seeing the beginning of, is countries restructuring their industry to be less reliant on the U.S. which will ultimately do far more damage to the U.S. than the U.S. can do to other countries. And once they’ve all done that, there won’t be a good reason to ramp that trade up again.

      As an American this is going to suck a lot for us, but right now everything Trump is doing sucks for us. The shame of it is that no matter how bad it gets, I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it. What other option have they been given?

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        What the fuck do tariffs do other than make shit more expensive for US residents?

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        From the same supporters who will shoot themselves in the foot to own the libs, this is at a much larger level.

        Also, a classic facist move. Get everyone to turn on you, then propagate "the world is out to get us", and once you instill that mentality on the people, it's easier for people to believe we're the victims, and we're fighting for our liberation.

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        • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

          He really does think the EU is a country. I'm not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

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          Well, I as (a well educated) European was quite surprised by the fact USA is a state... So... We're even?

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            America is the largest consumer state on planet earth. A huge amount of foreign economies rely heavily on export to the United States and tariffs can do a LOT of damage. Trump knows these tariffs are a huge bargaining chip, but it’s the type of chip you can only use to this degree once. And he’s cashing it in for… his own political clout. The natural response to this that we’re already seeing the beginning of, is countries restructuring their industry to be less reliant on the U.S. which will ultimately do far more damage to the U.S. than the U.S. can do to other countries. And once they’ve all done that, there won’t be a good reason to ramp that trade up again.

            As an American this is going to suck a lot for us, but right now everything Trump is doing sucks for us. The shame of it is that no matter how bad it gets, I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it. What other option have they been given?

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            I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it.

            If anything, they haven't condemned our fascist government enough. I think they're still largely in shock. Hopefully they'll get in the groove of the new world order without the US sooner rather than later.

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            • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

              He really does think the EU is a country. I'm not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

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              As an American, same.

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              • wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                I was going to say this. Trump thinks the EU already is what I wish it will become.

                Maybe his efforts will push us further into that direction though?

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                One of the good things to come from this is an end to the hegemony of the US. Now I have to hope the rest of the world will choose to be better as a result of it.

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                • thebat@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  When fascism came to America, it was wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

                  Fixed

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                  It Happened Here

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                  • B [email protected]

                    It's an economic zone made up of smaller countries, and functionality structured in a completely different way the US is regarding the fed vs the states. That fact the US president is referring to a continent as a country is unbelievably embarrassing.

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                    If only that were even close to the most embarrassing thing about him.

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                    • O [email protected]

                      He's a socially stunted bully (wait is that repeating myself?, not sure up to a certain age anyways) so yes, I think one of most satisfying wishes to make these days would be to give Trump self awareness and empathy.

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                      one of most satisfying wishes to make these days would be to give Trump self awareness and empathy.

                      I see that playing out like in the comic when the Joker was temporarily made sane. He was hysterical about the monstrous things he'd done and begged to be killed. Trump's entire being is malice and cruelty. Without it, he would no longer exist.

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                      • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                        I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it.

                        If anything, they haven't condemned our fascist government enough. I think they're still largely in shock. Hopefully they'll get in the groove of the new world order without the US sooner rather than later.

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                        If anything, they haven’t condemned our fascist government enough. I think they’re still largely in shock.

                        There's no sense in pointless bluster. Much is happening behind the scenes.

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                          If anything, they haven’t condemned our fascist government enough. I think they’re still largely in shock.

                          There's no sense in pointless bluster. Much is happening behind the scenes.

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                          They need to kick the US out of all those military bases around the world.

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                            When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

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                            Turned out it was carrying a Bible. Upside down.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John's_Church

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                              Twice. They did it twice.

                              You can almost (but not quite) forgive the first time. You could -maybe- write it off as an experiment, or that they were giving the 'real politicians' a scare to get them back in line.
                              However that's a lot of 'almost' and 'maybe'.

                              But the second time, that's fucking unforgivable.

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                              I didn't vote for him, but I expected his first term to be appoiting halfway competent people to run everything so he could fuck around and take the credit. I doubt I was alone.

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                                He really does think the EU is a country. I'm not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

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                                ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

                                Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

                                That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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                                • anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                                  As a resident of a Continental Country that is not the US, we've pretty much always seen Europe as a single, monolithic thing. It's hard for us to grasp how something like France, which is just slightly bigger than Minas Gerais, 4th largest state of Brazil, is a completely separate thing from the rest.

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                                  Ha, and France is the largest country in the EU!

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                                    One of the good things to come from this is an end to the hegemony of the US. Now I have to hope the rest of the world will choose to be better as a result of it.

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                                    Hmm, I would hope, but I doubt US power and influence will disappear that easily. It'll probably just be more negative.

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                                      ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

                                      Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

                                      That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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                                      You seem to be doing some American math in that first line.

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                                        ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

                                        Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

                                        That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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                                        130%? Might wanna check your math

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                                          130%? Might wanna check your math

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                                          My bad. Just ran through the numbers on ballotpedia the other day.

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