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  • thebat@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    When fascism came to America, it was wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

    Fixed

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    It Happened Here

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      It's an economic zone made up of smaller countries, and functionality structured in a completely different way the US is regarding the fed vs the states. That fact the US president is referring to a continent as a country is unbelievably embarrassing.

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      If only that were even close to the most embarrassing thing about him.

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      • O [email protected]

        He's a socially stunted bully (wait is that repeating myself?, not sure up to a certain age anyways) so yes, I think one of most satisfying wishes to make these days would be to give Trump self awareness and empathy.

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        one of most satisfying wishes to make these days would be to give Trump self awareness and empathy.

        I see that playing out like in the comic when the Joker was temporarily made sane. He was hysterical about the monstrous things he'd done and begged to be killed. Trump's entire being is malice and cruelty. Without it, he would no longer exist.

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        • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

          I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it.

          If anything, they haven't condemned our fascist government enough. I think they're still largely in shock. Hopefully they'll get in the groove of the new world order without the US sooner rather than later.

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          If anything, they haven’t condemned our fascist government enough. I think they’re still largely in shock.

          There's no sense in pointless bluster. Much is happening behind the scenes.

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          • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

            If anything, they haven’t condemned our fascist government enough. I think they’re still largely in shock.

            There's no sense in pointless bluster. Much is happening behind the scenes.

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            They need to kick the US out of all those military bases around the world.

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              When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

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              Turned out it was carrying a Bible. Upside down.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John's_Church

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              • D [email protected]

                Twice. They did it twice.

                You can almost (but not quite) forgive the first time. You could -maybe- write it off as an experiment, or that they were giving the 'real politicians' a scare to get them back in line.
                However that's a lot of 'almost' and 'maybe'.

                But the second time, that's fucking unforgivable.

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                I didn't vote for him, but I expected his first term to be appoiting halfway competent people to run everything so he could fuck around and take the credit. I doubt I was alone.

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                • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                  He really does think the EU is a country. I'm not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

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                  ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

                  Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

                  That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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                  • anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                    As a resident of a Continental Country that is not the US, we've pretty much always seen Europe as a single, monolithic thing. It's hard for us to grasp how something like France, which is just slightly bigger than Minas Gerais, 4th largest state of Brazil, is a completely separate thing from the rest.

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                    Ha, and France is the largest country in the EU!

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                    • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                      One of the good things to come from this is an end to the hegemony of the US. Now I have to hope the rest of the world will choose to be better as a result of it.

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                      Hmm, I would hope, but I doubt US power and influence will disappear that easily. It'll probably just be more negative.

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                        ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

                        Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

                        That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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                        You seem to be doing some American math in that first line.

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                          ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

                          Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

                          That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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                          130%? Might wanna check your math

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                            130%? Might wanna check your math

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                            My bad. Just ran through the numbers on ballotpedia the other day.

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                            • C [email protected]

                              You seem to be doing some American math in that first line.

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                              I fixed it. Thanks for dunking on my character rather than correcting me tho

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                              • 4 [email protected]

                                What the fuck do tariffs do other than make shit more expensive for US residents?

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                                If you're trying to build domestic manufacturing capacity in a specific industry in which many other countries are competitive, placing tariffs on products in that specific sector can encourage people to buy local until your manufacturers are competitive in the global market.

                                Similarly, if a foreign country is flooding your market with an excess of some product (dumping) and it's depressing the price of that product and putting your domestic manufacturers out of business, tariffs can help protect them while you work through treaty processes like WTO complaints.

                                Trump is doing neither of those things. Blanket tariffs are more likely to collapse your economy than grow it (see: Smoot-Hawley). His tariffs on specific products like steel and aluminium are unlikely to grow American manufacturing capacity in those sectors. Modernizing steel manufacturing in the US would take decades. Aluminum smelting is really energy intensive, so US aluminium producers can't compete very well with Canadian aluminum producers because Canadian producers have access to cheap and plentiful hydro-electric power. During his last term, steel and aluminium smelting capacity in the US actually shrank and the higher costs of materials in downstream manufacturing put hundreds of thousands of people out of work.

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                                • pugjesus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                  America was killed, by Americans, in a democratic election. And so many are still fondling the corpse, writhing with carrion bugs, and pretending it's still alive.

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                                  America was killed, by ignorant Americans

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                                    ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

                                    Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

                                    That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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                                    Oh, fuck that. Stop making excuses.

                                    Yes, the US electoral system is all kinds of fucked up, but Trump won, and the Republicans won a majority in the house and the senate. And since then, even though he's dismantling the federal government the level of protesting in the US is minimal.

                                    Look at the protests in Serbia or in Turkey, or even in Israel. The protests in the US aren't happening because enough Americans either support Trump or are OK with what he's doing. This isn't some merely Republican thing. This is Germany in the 1930s, one group driving the process and the vast majority either supporting or just going along.

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                                      I didn't vote for him, but I expected his first term to be appoiting halfway competent people to run everything so he could fuck around and take the credit. I doubt I was alone.

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                                      Why would you expect that?

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                                      • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                        Why would you expect that?

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                                        Because I thought he was lazy.

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                                        • anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                                          As a resident of a Continental Country that is not the US, we've pretty much always seen Europe as a single, monolithic thing. It's hard for us to grasp how something like France, which is just slightly bigger than Minas Gerais, 4th largest state of Brazil, is a completely separate thing from the rest.

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                                          Honestly, that just seems like ignorance. It's like you don't know that France likes wine and Germany drinks beer. Or that the two were on opposite sides of two world wars.

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