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Bad film with amazing premise and mediocre execution that you can't stop thinking about?

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    Dark City (1998) could definitely fit the bill, it has so many unique ideas for that time in film and you can see there’s of all sorts of future sci-fi movies in it from the matrix to inception, it’s a very visually ugly movie and the acting is subpar but as a premise it’s super interesting. Generally I think remakes are a waste of time and money but I’d love to see this movie with a proper budget and modern technology

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    The city itself was interesting as hell

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      The live action transformers movies.
      Although I almost never think about it.
      And I only saw the first thirty minutes of the first movie.

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      I've watched all of them. I was a TF fan as a kid. I watched it every morning before school and on Saturday mornings. The movies just....I don't know. The first one was the best of the live action. Bumblebee maybe. All of them felt more machine like, except the stupid peeing...wtf...

      That said, they were not great. The story, on concept, seemed ok. The execution sucked. The acting was not great. The tropes were un needed, didn't even really fit in, and just plain stupid at best. Mostly they were irritating. Like someone dragging their nails on a chalk board in the middle of a mediocre movie.

      The last couple felt more like an attempt at hero porn. [que "heroic" music, lame Walberg lines where he wields some weapon that makes no sense, then lots of booms. Don't forget the meaningless jumping, falling all over the place, and special forces that lean more on the special than forces.]

      The only good thing that came out of them was the limited re release of the OG toys. I managed to finally snag an Optimus and a couple others.

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        They Live (1988)

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          Man in the High Castle tv show. The premise was interesting, Nazis taking over the US and the population figting back. However, the show quickly devolved into a confusing mess.

          Nazis are in charge of the US government, yet there's other Nazis on the run from the Nazis in charge? And they're hiding bibles? I was left scratching my head wondering if there were any characters that weren't Nazis. I guess it's a story about how bad guys always turn on each other?

          Also The Witcher season 1 tv show. I've never played the games before and knew nothing about it. I was hoping the tv series would be my introduction to the games, but... what in the actual fuck. Was the director drunk? Is this a show about medieval fantasy time travel and I'm just not getting it?

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          As far as the witcher and time travel kind of. At some point in the future there was a disaster and Earth was destroyed. However some humans and lots of monsters from alternate realities ended up in the world of the Witcher. Elves and dwarves were the original inhabitants.

          Humans used a mix of genetic engineering they had and magic taught to them by the elves to make the Witchers. The Witchers helped solve the massive monster problem and the world ended up with humans mostly on top.

          Witchers age very slowly and if not killed can live a very long time. Powerful magic users are basically the same. So the stories from session 1 are spread over about 80 years with some long lived characters.

          The first book that season 1 is primarily based on is also different from the other books. It's a bunch of short stories that are based on classic stories. So there is Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, etc.

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            I love Jericho. On my third watch right now actually. Would agree that it's frequently clichΓ©, but overall I'd say it's very good. Skeet Ulrich is transfixing.

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            Did you read the season 3 in comic books? I was surprised about the following they've got as I was reading that Wikipedia entry.

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              Man in the High Castle tv show. The premise was interesting, Nazis taking over the US and the population figting back. However, the show quickly devolved into a confusing mess.

              Nazis are in charge of the US government, yet there's other Nazis on the run from the Nazis in charge? And they're hiding bibles? I was left scratching my head wondering if there were any characters that weren't Nazis. I guess it's a story about how bad guys always turn on each other?

              Also The Witcher season 1 tv show. I've never played the games before and knew nothing about it. I was hoping the tv series would be my introduction to the games, but... what in the actual fuck. Was the director drunk? Is this a show about medieval fantasy time travel and I'm just not getting it?

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              If you didn't actually finish high castle, it just keeps getting good weirder.

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                I remember starting watching that. I have no idea how far I got, but I don't remember a thing about it.

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                Same here. Aamof I just try watching it last year. Visually, it was cool to come back to those years, but I don't think I finished season 1.

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                  Out of curiosity, have you seen Andor at all?

                  I won't push you to watch Star Wars since it seems like you've landed where you have for good reason, but if in the event you were looking to give any piece of Star Wars media another chance, Andor is the one I'd choose.

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                  Over Mandalorian?

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                    There was this movie I saw once called Time Trap. I definitely would not call it good, but the premise was interesting.

                    Archaeology professor goes missing while exploring a cave which was once thought to be the location of the fountain of youth. His grad students go looking for him, find the cave, weird things start happening when they enter.

                    Spoilers below:

                    ::: The cave is revealed to cause some sort of time distortion which grows in intensity the further in you go. The professor who had been missing for days was only in the cave for a few hours. By the time everyone realizes what is happening, months go by, then years. They exit the cave at one point only to find an apocalypse has occurred, with the cave becoming the only safe haven for them to exist in at this point. Without spoiling the rest of the movie, the story plays in to the fountain of youth legend by including a group of Spanish Conquistadors and a tribe of paleolithic cavemen living in a deeper part of the cave, all living as if only days have passed, but in reality centuries/millennia had gone by outside. :::

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                    This was the first thing I thought of when seeing the prompt. I actually love this movie and have seen it several times, but the acting is abysmal.

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                      i ain't arguing with a machine

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                      Well, I mean nobody has actually made any defense for the movie here other than repeating the word "deconstruction" without elaborating any further, and I'm not going to do a deep dive and write out a counter argument to my own position, so the machine will have to do. For all we know this is the same machine that Disney used to recycle these old plot points for TLJ πŸ˜†

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                        New Rose Hotel (1998) It's set in the same universe as Johnny Mnemonic, stars Christopher Walken, Willem Dafoe, and Asia Argento. I love Gibson stories and the short story it's based on, while not one of his best, could make a good creepy weird movie especially with that cast. Unfortunately it is one of the most boring movies I've sat through at least half a dozen times.

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                          Did you read the season 3 in comic books? I was surprised about the following they've got as I was reading that Wikipedia entry.

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                          yeah but it's been aaages, I forgot about what happened in those. I remember it was good.

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                            Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Amazing world building and visuals that was destroyed by terrible casting and wooden acting.

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                              Over Mandalorian?

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                              Absolutely. But that's just my preference.

                              Mandalorian is really just a spaghetti western with a Star Wars skin. It has cool moments, but also doesn't take itself too seriously, a mix of action and comedy, and though the individual episode plots are contrived, they know the more important things is really just spending time with the characters. But if you don't like the characters, then the whole thing kinda falls apart, like what happened with the boring Boba Fett spinoff.

                              Andor is a spy drama which goes all in on the gravity of its plot. It's not lighthearted, doesn't have goofy moments or mascot characters, and despite taking place immediately before the original trilogy, it's not riding the coattails of nostalgia. An almost 100% human cast with no helmets or painted skin also makes it easier for the quality of acting to really shine on the screen.

                              Merely being different doesn't inherently make one better than the other, but what makes Andor stand apart for me at least is that it is the only Star Wars property I know of that was not at all made for children. Not that it's crass or gory or full of profanity, but it tackles topics like fascism and genocide that could never be as thoroughly explored in any other Star Wars property intended for children.

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                                The Man from Earth

                                B4

                                Triangle

                                Time Lapse

                                Daybreakers

                                Evolution

                                Knowing

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                                Knowing is soooo frustrating. Great premise, Nic Cage Nic Caging tha fuck out of everything. Then it seems like the writer hit a block and turned to a random word generator that spit out "space angels" and called it a day.

                                Still 2/3 of an interesting movie.

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                                  Absolutely. But that's just my preference.

                                  Mandalorian is really just a spaghetti western with a Star Wars skin. It has cool moments, but also doesn't take itself too seriously, a mix of action and comedy, and though the individual episode plots are contrived, they know the more important things is really just spending time with the characters. But if you don't like the characters, then the whole thing kinda falls apart, like what happened with the boring Boba Fett spinoff.

                                  Andor is a spy drama which goes all in on the gravity of its plot. It's not lighthearted, doesn't have goofy moments or mascot characters, and despite taking place immediately before the original trilogy, it's not riding the coattails of nostalgia. An almost 100% human cast with no helmets or painted skin also makes it easier for the quality of acting to really shine on the screen.

                                  Merely being different doesn't inherently make one better than the other, but what makes Andor stand apart for me at least is that it is the only Star Wars property I know of that was not at all made for children. Not that it's crass or gory or full of profanity, but it tackles topics like fascism and genocide that could never be as thoroughly explored in any other Star Wars property intended for children.

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                                  Sold. I'll watch it.

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                                    Mickey 17 is the latest one for me.

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                                      Highlander II

                                      The Dark Tower

                                      It's a long list but these two were painful.

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                                      Fuck The Dark Tower. That movie doesn't exist for me. Total waste.

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                                        Mickey 17 is the latest one for me.

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                                        Oof is it bad? I was beating myself because I didn’t get to watch in on theatre because of its very short run. I was waiting for digital release to watch it.

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                                          Not a film, but a TV series?
                                          It's called Jericho, and the synopsis in the Wikipedia reads:

                                          Jericho is an American post-apocalyptic action drama television series, which centers on the residents of the fictional city of Jericho, Kansas, in the aftermath of a nuclear attack on 23 major cities in the contiguous United States.

                                          But yeah, the execution is mediocre at best. Both the action and the drama are unbearably flimsy and cliche, even the argument flops as metal.

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                                          Yeah, I can't stop thinking about that show either.

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