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Young US men are joining Russian churches promising 'absurd levels of manliness'

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  • S [email protected]

    And what does the article say? Eating soup isn't manly? WTF? I'd like to hear his rationale for that one, but I'd probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

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    It's in the 12 commandments, along with though shaft not draw.liquid with a straw because it looketh like yon penis.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/house-republican-says-he-doesn-t-use-straws-that-s-what-the-women-in-my-house-do/ar-AA1Fsx5r

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    • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org5 [email protected]

      The Russian Orthodox are in schism from most other Orthodox. You'll need to get more information to get an answer to that question.

      Russian Orthodoxy was established from it's foundation as a fake religion that exists to keep political power in Moscow. This is very different from other Orthodox.

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      Sort if like Chruch of England schism

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      • A [email protected]

        I assume jebus is somehow involved?

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        Jesus was known for being a man

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        • M [email protected]

          I really wish Russia would get it's shit together. It's a beautiful country that just goes on forever. I've met Russians that are just awesome. I would love to go on vacation there, or even retire there one day. Buy a little dacha on a river next to some sleepy little village. But the politics, fucking Putin, fucking oligarchs....

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          The concerning part is the US is starting to look more and more like Russia in all the bad ways

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          • F [email protected]

            Better use Jesus as a rolemodel than Andrew Tate

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            I think Jesus's teachings are hard to accept for some so instead they twist it around to support their views.

            "Jesus wants Muslims to die"

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            • kbal@fedia.ioK [email protected]

              doggedly backed the invasion of Ukraine, calling it a Holy War

              Yeah I don't really give a shit about their concept of the male gender. Apparently it involves fathering many children, so that Russia doesn't run out of soldiers for the hundred years of glorious holy war it will take to defeat NATO and save the world. If you really want to reach the ultimate heights of manliness, try wearing eye shadow, practicing embroidery, and watching Hello Kitty while remaining confidently masculine.

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              Putin needs an army to meet his growing desires for power

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              • hanrahan@slrpnk.netH [email protected]

                Sort if like Chruch of England schism

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                Not really. That was primarily because the king of England at the time (Henry VIII) wanted the freedom to divorce his wives and take new ones repeatedly - he literally asked the pope to annul his marriage and the pope told him no.

                Well, he took that personally.

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                • V [email protected]

                  A younger brother of mine just baptized into an Orthodox church nearby. Is this the same thing?

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                  If your younger brother watches a lot of right wing rabbithole type content it's entirely possible that he's on the same pipeline, yes.

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                    He looks like he would be handy on a trip through Ravenholm.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      They're probably just hunting for a construct. I'm sure if anyone actually does move to Russia they'll just be given a gun and told to shoot ukrainians

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                      They'll have a gun pointed at them and told to clear minefields in the Donbass.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore

                        The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn't changing

                        There's also a significant possibility we simply won't be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over

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                        The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn’t changing

                        No need to deplatform if nobody wants to be the demagogue. Their propaganda is an act of war. Treat it as such and take appropriate measures.

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                        • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                          Irons can burn in hell. Either steamer or dryer, but ironing legitimately sucks. It somehow makes my shirt more wrinkly than I started.

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                          Sounds like you're too manly for your iron. Try being a bit gayer next time.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Campbell's classic chicken noodle hits different when you're recovering from a bout of norovirus.

                            But generally yes, canned soup is pretty bad. There's a ton of soups across most global cuisines, so many so that it's borderline unbelievable that you've never tried a single one.

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                            And soup is so easy to make from scratch, it seems feeble to open a can. But yeah, OK, if you're sick, that's another thing.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              Toxic masculinity is full of shaming men for random things that are arbitrarily defined as not manly. Nothing is more dangerous for a Man than not conforming to masculine gender norms

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                              When I was younger, I was thin, blond, green-eyed and freckled. In short, a bit of a twink. I didn't present as macho, but grew up in a rough neighborhood and when I went to college, could take down any "manly" frat-boy bullies who thought they could push me around.

                              Now I'm much older, also much bigger, look like an extra in a biker movie, but am still the same guy I was back then, and I'm never on the side of 'roid-raging morons or idiot red-pillers. When they think I'm one of them and start chatting shit, I shut it down fast. Even when they're hormone-stuffed human cauliflowers, they're soft. I'm not going to turn my back on my gay, lesbian and trans friends just because they make you insecure. You're the one with the wrong values and self-loathing. Work on that if you want to feel better about yourself.

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                              • F [email protected]

                                I think men are going to have to define foe themselves what secure masculinity looks like and how to achieve it.

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                                Not worrying about it has been a solution that has worked well for me. Having a close friend who's lesbian helped a lot too. She taught me a lot about being true to one's self, and I love her for it. In the next life, if she's into men or I'm a woman, we'll get together. In this life, we don't have sex, but there are plenty of other ways to show love for someone. She's my sister from another mother.

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                                • E [email protected]

                                  that's like 3 layers of scam: church, manliness and absurd levels

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                                  Maybe four, if you include Russian state-controlled church.

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                                  • hanrahan@slrpnk.netH [email protected]

                                    Sort if like Chruch of England schism

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                                    The roots were more substantial. The political leadership in Moscow took offense when their religious leaders in Kiev (Kiev was the religious capital of their brand of Orthodoxy) went to the Council of Florence and agreed to union with the Catholic Church. Corrupt secular leadership in Moscow feared accountability to anyone so they deposed the Metropolitan (a type of bishop) of Kiev and then ordered the bishops of Moscow to elect their own patriarch. That's how it got started. And the Russian Orthodox are insane. Many go so far as to say that the Catholic Church has no valid sacraments at all. They frequently get in the way of restoration of union between Rome and other Eastern Orthodox but I feel like we've hit a break point where others in the east have had enough. It is time to say "NO" to Moscow. Your political organization masquerading as a religion has done enough harm. Go to the pits of hell where you belong.

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                                    • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]

                                      Manliness has always been a scam.

                                      Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

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                                      me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

                                      And it's entangled with paranoid, exclusive nationalism of the worst sort. It's no wonder the women there like foreign guys.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        Not really. That was primarily because the king of England at the time (Henry VIII) wanted the freedom to divorce his wives and take new ones repeatedly - he literally asked the pope to annul his marriage and the pope told him no.

                                        Well, he took that personally.

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                                        And the post-Tudor CoE lost interest in persecuting people fairly quickly, mainly Catholics and nonconformist Protestants. Past King Billy's time, they've just been lukewarm and mildly inclusive, like most other mainstream Protestant sects.

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                                        • J [email protected]

                                          JFC if someone is this worried about their "manliness" or lack thereof, there's really no hope for them.

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                                          Are you talking about me? How do you know? It's pure rumors anyway! I'm extremely manly, OK? My car makes a lot of noise, so yeah. I'm heterosexual btw

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