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Young US men are joining Russian churches promising 'absurd levels of manliness'

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  • S [email protected]

    It's a hoot. These Ultra Incels think the Orthodox Church is going to hand them a submissive woman. Sounds like their new church is a sausage fest up in there.

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    probably thier excuse to turn each other on.

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    • F [email protected]

      It's a vocal minority that is trying to appear bigger than they are with propaganda

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      That propaganda helped Trump win the Gen Z vote. I wouldn't say it's a minority when factoring only youth. Plus there are plenty of middle aged and older men that have fragile masculinity.

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        Pro tip: if you're worried about your manliness you should go to therapy not to church.

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        • F [email protected]

          That doesn't seem surprising. They both are misogyny plus not getting laid

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          Well like the other commenter said, it was ostensibly about guys just focusing on themselves and breaking out of the toxic trait of defining yourself by whoever is on your arm. That in itself is fine, and hell, even helpful. The issue is that it naturally attracted incels trying to be the aloof sigma that's too cool to bother with silly women.

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          • S [email protected]

            And what does the article say? Eating soup isn't manly? WTF? I'd like to hear his rationale for that one, but I'd probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

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            It's in the 12 commandments, along with though shaft not draw.liquid with a straw because it looketh like yon penis.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/house-republican-says-he-doesn-t-use-straws-that-s-what-the-women-in-my-house-do/ar-AA1Fsx5r

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            • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org5 [email protected]

              The Russian Orthodox are in schism from most other Orthodox. You'll need to get more information to get an answer to that question.

              Russian Orthodoxy was established from it's foundation as a fake religion that exists to keep political power in Moscow. This is very different from other Orthodox.

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              Sort if like Chruch of England schism

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                I assume jebus is somehow involved?

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                Jesus was known for being a man

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                • M [email protected]

                  I really wish Russia would get it's shit together. It's a beautiful country that just goes on forever. I've met Russians that are just awesome. I would love to go on vacation there, or even retire there one day. Buy a little dacha on a river next to some sleepy little village. But the politics, fucking Putin, fucking oligarchs....

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                  The concerning part is the US is starting to look more and more like Russia in all the bad ways

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                  • F [email protected]

                    Better use Jesus as a rolemodel than Andrew Tate

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                    I think Jesus's teachings are hard to accept for some so instead they twist it around to support their views.

                    "Jesus wants Muslims to die"

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                    • kbal@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                      doggedly backed the invasion of Ukraine, calling it a Holy War

                      Yeah I don't really give a shit about their concept of the male gender. Apparently it involves fathering many children, so that Russia doesn't run out of soldiers for the hundred years of glorious holy war it will take to defeat NATO and save the world. If you really want to reach the ultimate heights of manliness, try wearing eye shadow, practicing embroidery, and watching Hello Kitty while remaining confidently masculine.

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                      Putin needs an army to meet his growing desires for power

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                      • hanrahan@slrpnk.netH [email protected]

                        Sort if like Chruch of England schism

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                        Not really. That was primarily because the king of England at the time (Henry VIII) wanted the freedom to divorce his wives and take new ones repeatedly - he literally asked the pope to annul his marriage and the pope told him no.

                        Well, he took that personally.

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                        • V [email protected]

                          A younger brother of mine just baptized into an Orthodox church nearby. Is this the same thing?

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                          If your younger brother watches a lot of right wing rabbithole type content it's entirely possible that he's on the same pipeline, yes.

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                            He looks like he would be handy on a trip through Ravenholm.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              They're probably just hunting for a construct. I'm sure if anyone actually does move to Russia they'll just be given a gun and told to shoot ukrainians

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                              They'll have a gun pointed at them and told to clear minefields in the Donbass.

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                              • A [email protected]

                                There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore

                                The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn't changing

                                There's also a significant possibility we simply won't be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over

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                                The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn’t changing

                                No need to deplatform if nobody wants to be the demagogue. Their propaganda is an act of war. Treat it as such and take appropriate measures.

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                                • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                                  Irons can burn in hell. Either steamer or dryer, but ironing legitimately sucks. It somehow makes my shirt more wrinkly than I started.

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                                  Sounds like you're too manly for your iron. Try being a bit gayer next time.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Campbell's classic chicken noodle hits different when you're recovering from a bout of norovirus.

                                    But generally yes, canned soup is pretty bad. There's a ton of soups across most global cuisines, so many so that it's borderline unbelievable that you've never tried a single one.

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                                    And soup is so easy to make from scratch, it seems feeble to open a can. But yeah, OK, if you're sick, that's another thing.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      Toxic masculinity is full of shaming men for random things that are arbitrarily defined as not manly. Nothing is more dangerous for a Man than not conforming to masculine gender norms

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                                      When I was younger, I was thin, blond, green-eyed and freckled. In short, a bit of a twink. I didn't present as macho, but grew up in a rough neighborhood and when I went to college, could take down any "manly" frat-boy bullies who thought they could push me around.

                                      Now I'm much older, also much bigger, look like an extra in a biker movie, but am still the same guy I was back then, and I'm never on the side of 'roid-raging morons or idiot red-pillers. When they think I'm one of them and start chatting shit, I shut it down fast. Even when they're hormone-stuffed human cauliflowers, they're soft. I'm not going to turn my back on my gay, lesbian and trans friends just because they make you insecure. You're the one with the wrong values and self-loathing. Work on that if you want to feel better about yourself.

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                                      • F [email protected]

                                        I think men are going to have to define foe themselves what secure masculinity looks like and how to achieve it.

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                                        Not worrying about it has been a solution that has worked well for me. Having a close friend who's lesbian helped a lot too. She taught me a lot about being true to one's self, and I love her for it. In the next life, if she's into men or I'm a woman, we'll get together. In this life, we don't have sex, but there are plenty of other ways to show love for someone. She's my sister from another mother.

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          that's like 3 layers of scam: church, manliness and absurd levels

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                                          Maybe four, if you include Russian state-controlled church.

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