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  • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

    I don't understand. How much bananas per quarter dishwasher squared is that?

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    Sorry, I only know freedom units 😐

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      I was there three months near the border close to Amsterdam and I found outside the city and outside of everyone heading home you pretty much average 125mph+ in any reasonable performance car. I was in an older 911 so I must have averaged 150 with it being a sports car. I would do a mild or two, slow down 125 to minimize the delta while passing, and then could quickly speed up again.

      It might not be all the time but we never legally make it past 70mph despite wide open roads outside the city. Makes me sad.

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      Amsterdam is not close to any border. On the other hand, the Netherlands is very small, so in that sense you’re always close to a border 🙂

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        I moved to Germany 2 years ago, and was afraid of highways being like Mad Max, but I was positively surprised.

        Most drivers are very attentive and skilled, keeping the rules, driving safe. I like it much better, than Eastern EU, where people are also going 150+, and are being assholes in the meantime. The upper limit of 130 just puts stress on me, because I obey the laws, but the giant SUV in my ass flashing their highbeams does not. In Germany this barely happens to me, most drivers are polite and safe, even in expensive sports cars.

        I really came to enjoy the liberating feeling of driving at my own (and the traffic’s) pace on the autobahn. Yesterday I was travelling between Dusseldorf and Berlin, long open stretches of 3-lane roads, with only a few cars around. I was going around 200, yet I saw a car far behind me coming up fast, some polite flashes of lights from the distance, I pull to the right, and let a Porsche pass me quickly.

        I might sound like a carbrain, but I’m not. Everybody should try German highways once, so they can form their own opinion, and not judge based on internet memes. I feel 10x safer on the autobahn, than on some shitty Eastern EU highway with a bunch of apes around me, who don’t care about the rules.

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        There are no "polite flashes". If you have to bully other cars out of the left lane, you're driving faster than traffic allows.

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          Germany has fewer than average road fatalities than most of the world. Less than average in Europe too.

          It's not really statistically noticable in that regard. Not the best, but far from the worst.

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          Probably still better than those biways and highways that go through towns here in the US.

          Fuck you the speed limit just went from 75 MPH down to 35 MPH, the local up his own ass cop is already behind you. Eat shit.

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          • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

            It's more like if you drive too fast you're not insured. Oh, by the way, road works, 80km/h. Aaaand you're free again! Have f- oh no, roadworks again, 80 pls. Ok done. Now you can really hit the gas! Joke, roadworks again haha, 80! Finally done, now we promise we don't have roadworks anymore, enjoy! Aaaand welcome to the Netherlands, 100 please.

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            It's more like if you drive too fast you're not insured.

            First time I ever heard this. You lose insurance? What?

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              There are no "polite flashes". If you have to bully other cars out of the left lane, you're driving faster than traffic allows.

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              Polite or not, in German driving school you are taught to use either the horn or flash your high beams to signal intent to overtake.
              So flashing the high beams from a distance could be seen as polite since you will not ride their ass before they have time to move to the right to let faster traffic pass.

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              • S [email protected]

                There are no "polite flashes". If you have to bully other cars out of the left lane, you're driving faster than traffic allows.

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                Yeah. But if they pull over after somebody "politely" flashes at them, they aren't obeying the traffic rules in the first place as those require them to drive in the right lane if they can at all times.

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                  I moved to Germany 2 years ago, and was afraid of highways being like Mad Max, but I was positively surprised.

                  Most drivers are very attentive and skilled, keeping the rules, driving safe. I like it much better, than Eastern EU, where people are also going 150+, and are being assholes in the meantime. The upper limit of 130 just puts stress on me, because I obey the laws, but the giant SUV in my ass flashing their highbeams does not. In Germany this barely happens to me, most drivers are polite and safe, even in expensive sports cars.

                  I really came to enjoy the liberating feeling of driving at my own (and the traffic’s) pace on the autobahn. Yesterday I was travelling between Dusseldorf and Berlin, long open stretches of 3-lane roads, with only a few cars around. I was going around 200, yet I saw a car far behind me coming up fast, some polite flashes of lights from the distance, I pull to the right, and let a Porsche pass me quickly.

                  I might sound like a carbrain, but I’m not. Everybody should try German highways once, so they can form their own opinion, and not judge based on internet memes. I feel 10x safer on the autobahn, than on some shitty Eastern EU highway with a bunch of apes around me, who don’t care about the rules.

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                  because I obey the laws

                  flashes of lights from the distance, I pull to the right

                  Doesn't sound like you were obeying the Rechtsfahrgebot.

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                  • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

                    It’s hyperbole. He’s saying you’re driving so fast it might as well be the speed of sound.

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                    That's way higher than the speed of sound. It's like 767 mph

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                      regarding the legality of breaking the sound barrier:

                      if i remember correctly there’s is an indirect general speedlimit, because any vehicle moving below a certain height is not allowed to go beyond 400 something kph. now this is intended for planes and helicopters and such, but afaik also applies to cars. therefore breaking the sound barrier, sadly, would be illegal.
                      besides, i think breaking the sound barrier is limited to certain zones anyways.

                      i’m not trying to nitpick on the joke, but rather give supplementary information that may be interesting.

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                        It's more like if you drive too fast you're not insured.

                        First time I ever heard this. You lose insurance? What?

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                        Yeah, you are allowed to drive as fast as you like on some Autobahns, but if you have an accident and your speed is deemed to be faster than safe, the insurance companies are like "nah bro, you brought this on yourself"

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                          It's more like if you drive too fast you're not insured.

                          First time I ever heard this. You lose insurance? What?

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                          Never heard of this, but you are likely to be deemed at fault due to reckless driving above certain speeds.

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                          • dynamo@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                            Polite or not, in German driving school you are taught to use either the horn or flash your high beams to signal intent to overtake.
                            So flashing the high beams from a distance could be seen as polite since you will not ride their ass before they have time to move to the right to let faster traffic pass.

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                            The fuck kinda driving school did you go to? Both flashing your high beams and using the horn is simply not allowed and counts as "Nötigung". If someone is in the left lane while not actively overtaking, should move to the right, no discussion there. But when I encounter aggressive assholes, the kind who uses high beams, it's always when there's too much traffic to race across Germany.

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                              Yeah. But if they pull over after somebody "politely" flashes at them, they aren't obeying the traffic rules in the first place as those require them to drive in the right lane if they can at all times.

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                              More often than not, people move to the right once they are done overtaking someone else. It's just that these maneuvers take longer than the assholes who flash their high beams or who tailgate can handle. And those are the situations where the traffic situation simple doesn't allow for their speeding.

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                                here it's more like follow the speed limit except for when a bicycle is ahead of you. you bike behind a car and they will obey the school zone limit. you bike over the limit ahead of them and they will speed to pass you and kill a child for bonus points.

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                                Oh man I feel that one. I ride my bike fast. Like usually around 28 km/h. But some drivers get downright agressive, and really need to get past me especially when the need to turn into a habitation area in 100 meters.

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                                  Germans any other time: obey the rule no matter how bad

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                                    The fuck kinda driving school did you go to? Both flashing your high beams and using the horn is simply not allowed and counts as "Nötigung". If someone is in the left lane while not actively overtaking, should move to the right, no discussion there. But when I encounter aggressive assholes, the kind who uses high beams, it's always when there's too much traffic to race across Germany.

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                                    To signal intent to overtake flashing the light (outside of settlements) is legal and described in the StVo. It’s not illegal. Doing so while driving very close to the front car while they have no chance to make space can be „Nötigung“, yes. The situation described by OP falls under the legal use of high beams in my opinion.

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                                    • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                      It's more like if you drive too fast you're not insured. Oh, by the way, road works, 80km/h. Aaaand you're free again! Have f- oh no, roadworks again, 80 pls. Ok done. Now you can really hit the gas! Joke, roadworks again haha, 80! Finally done, now we promise we don't have roadworks anymore, enjoy! Aaaand welcome to the Netherlands, 100 please.

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                                      Ironically, Germany is the only country where I’ve gotten speeding tickets on the highway when driving through Europe east to west or vice versa. I’m still not entirely sure whether it was because of road works, the fact that I had a (small) trailer, or something else.

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                                        Driving at those speeds uses exponentially more fuel. RIP planet earth 😞

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                                        I‘m all in favor of a general 130 km/h limit on German autobahn. In addition to being better for the environment, it would make our already relatively save autobahn even saver. But I have a feeling that the speed limit in Germany is similar to the gun discussion in the US. It’s a very emotional topic for many people.

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                                        • fabian@lemmy.zipF [email protected]

                                          German here. It is true that yes, there are some parts of the German highway where there is no official speed limit. But often times, be it through traffic or speed limits, you can't drive that fast.

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                                          Are the no limit zones shown on google maps?

                                          Also how well/visible are the signs?

                                          I fear thinking some section is no limits only to get a massive ticket.

                                          Of course I would drive after the conditions

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