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Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

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    So..old mods or mods for uninteresting and obscure games would eventually die because of zero seeders.

    I know there's no easy answer for this question but this would happen. Just try looking on the p2P scene for an unpopular or extremely niche tv show. There's usually zero or sometimes in a rare occasion less than 3 seeders

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    I wonder if this could be solved on protocol level, i.e. automatically preserve objects with least redundancy, as known to the server.

    Like if federated servers hold 50 copies of a file, it's likely not worthy of saving, but if there is only 1 or 2, it must be stored.

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      Care to explain in what way?
      I've been a casual user of the side for a few years now and except the short waiting times for downloads and endorsement reminders there has been nothing to really frustrate me.

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      The folks who responded explained it better than I could have so I will deffer to them.

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        Guy worked on the site for 24 years. Think he deserves some nice things himself (like reclaiming his life)

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        Yeah he could have reached out to the community to find someone to run it who would act ethically.

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          Yeah he could have reached out to the community to find someone to run it who would act ethically.

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          You make it sound like the site has been destroyed and enshitefied. Do we have any proof of such so far? Or can we put our trust in the guy who made it to hand it off to someone he trusts to do good by it? Everyone is freaking out about a possibility, which isn't without cause since we've seen what can happen with other companies, but so far there is no need to pull out pitchforks.

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            You make it sound like the site has been destroyed and enshitefied. Do we have any proof of such so far? Or can we put our trust in the guy who made it to hand it off to someone he trusts to do good by it? Everyone is freaking out about a possibility, which isn't without cause since we've seen what can happen with other companies, but so far there is no need to pull out pitchforks.

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            Oh I agree. I’m just bitching that it was all done secretly.

            The fact that it’s secret implies to me the community won’t be happy. Idk.

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              Oh I agree. I’m just bitching that it was all done secretly.

              The fact that it’s secret implies to me the community won’t be happy. Idk.

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              Yeah, the doing it in secret can definitely be worrying and flame rumors, I agree. I'm being optimistic that the new owner is someone close to them and they're still working out details before announcing who they are

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                Pretty much all platforms do this. It’s not a bad thing to want a big and established uncensored platform

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                Nobody should be obliged to host bigotry. That's not "censorship" in a way that matters.

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                • zerohora@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                  ? Same reason people use shit platforms? I can't barely watch Twitch with 3 ads in a row every 30min and they still are the biggest streaming platform even when is shitty to the users and streamers. It's a community based platform unless the community move to other place they still be big because people is there.

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                  I was going to ask if twitch was still relevant but then realised I genuinely don't give a shit.

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                  • E [email protected]

                    Content of the Reddit post follows:

                    See the original post here. https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1lcyjl6/nexus_mods_was_acquired_by_chosen_a_company/

                    People on Restera did some digging: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nexus-mods-site-has-been-sold.1219452/post-141554013

                    Site of the company itself: https://wearechosen.io/

                    Here is a monetization "cheat sheet" that the CEO posted on LinkedIn which is linked on Chosen's main page if you scroll down: https://i.imgur.com/ztjS4K7.jpeg

                    In the CEO's LinkedIn profile it says this:

                    Working closely with teams at NexusMods and beyond to build meaningful, sustainable experiences

                    If I had to guess the acquisition details are under some sort of NDA right now

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                    That cheat sheet is weirdly coherent. Human, almost. Weird.

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                      Pretty much all platforms do this. It’s not a bad thing to want a big and established uncensored platform

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                      But if their argument is that you can simply ignore mods you disagree with, then those individuals should stop brigading against and whining about, say, a mod that enables queer relationships. As their own arguments imply, they can simply ignore those mods.

                      They should really pick a side instead of cherrypicking what's convenient for them.

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                        It does but it does so far as someone updates indices. It's easier with git, but someone still needs to do all of it.

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                        In the case of KSP, mod authors themselves submit Pull Requests to update the index when they release a new mod or a new version of it.

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                          Literally is, sorry you are so confused about the subject.

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                          It do be like that, but sadly human greed has never once gave us a prime example of actual true to spirit communism

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                            Nobody should be obliged to host bigotry. That's not "censorship" in a way that matters.

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                            Oh yea of course they’re not, and I would say bigotry was not my aim with my comment. The company can do whatever the fuck they want and it’s probably better this way.

                            I do get that some people might want extreme free speech where nothing gets censored. It allows for other non conventional ideas to spread. For better, and for worse. Yea nowadays it’s often for worse but hey, there’s still a chance. All of this is really subjective.

                            I just don’t believe that a mod that changes Voice 1 and Voice 2 to Women voice and Men voice is bigotry. Removing pride flags in a game is… well it says a lot of the person, but it doesn’t harm anyone directly and it’s something you have to actively add to your game if you want it. There could be criticism of pride which can be valid as well but that’s beyond my point.

                            Having this kind of content hidden and with trigger warnings is still more or less doable depending on the content, and can allow for more expression than classical rules, and not only bad expression.

                            Shitty mods like Crack Life for half-life are super offensive but funny as hell if you take it with a grain of salt. Knowing that could be banned sucks.

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                              You make it sound like the site has been destroyed and enshitefied. Do we have any proof of such so far? Or can we put our trust in the guy who made it to hand it off to someone he trusts to do good by it? Everyone is freaking out about a possibility, which isn't without cause since we've seen what can happen with other companies, but so far there is no need to pull out pitchforks.

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                              Corporations and companies parasitically destroy everything human in the name of money. If it's not a non-profit dedicated to the purpose of providing access to mods, it's just a question of time. Best to just get a new thing started.

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                                But if their argument is that you can simply ignore mods you disagree with, then those individuals should stop brigading against and whining about, say, a mod that enables queer relationships. As their own arguments imply, they can simply ignore those mods.

                                They should really pick a side instead of cherrypicking what's convenient for them.

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                                I would personally be for that

                                The offensive mods should be hidden by default or similar, with a trigger warning on the mod asking to move on if you don’t agree instead of crying in comments. Same for LGBT.. stuff, but we can show by default because it’s not offensive, but have a way to hide it so that those that hate social progress won’t cry as well

                                And there you go. A platform for everyone. You won’t agree with everyone, but you can make the experience tailored to what you want or don’t want to see

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                                  Friendly reminder this is the average "stop banning mods" commenter.

                                  1000031577

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                                    Corporations and companies parasitically destroy everything human in the name of money. If it's not a non-profit dedicated to the purpose of providing access to mods, it's just a question of time. Best to just get a new thing started.

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                                    That is such a depressing way to look at things

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                                      Pretty much all platforms do this. It’s not a bad thing to want a big and established uncensored platform

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                                      I'm sure all they're concerned about is censoring and it has nothing to do with anything else.

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                                        I'm sure all they're concerned about is censoring and it has nothing to do with anything else.

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                                        Spicy point of view that I don’t agree with, but you’re straw manning here.

                                        I'm concerned about it but not for bad reasons. What stats do we have on the different reasons?

                                        Sorting people with "I’m sure they’re all bigots" is a great way to avoid any debate, but very manipulative

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                                          Friendly reminder this is the average "stop banning mods" commenter.

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                                          Stop banning mods except the ones I disagree with.

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