Russia says it will react “very negatively” if Ali Khamenei is killed
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This is just "the anti Vietnam War protestors are secretly working for the soviets" for the modern era. There were just as many conspiracies that left liberals were secretly agents of Moscow in the 60s.
I’m going to respond to a later comment of yours here for the sake of visibility.
Tucker Carlson flew to Russia to interview Vladimir Putin last year. That trip was financed by Tenant Media - the same group that was revealed to have been financed by Russia for the sake of spreading Russian talking points. Justin Trudeau gave testimony under oath that Tucker was shilling for Russia.
- How Russian operatives covertly hired U.S. influencers to create viral videos
- Right-wing US influencers say they were victims of alleged Russian plot
- Tucker Carlson Funded by Russian Propaganda Machine, Justin Trudeau Testifies Under Oath
It is more challenging, generally, to show that politicians are illegally taking money from foreign interests because the pathways by which money is publicly disclosed are more well-known. So the pathways through which money may be hidden can also be followed to disguise the source of income. Unless one gets caught.
As did an aid of Rand Paul’s, who helped funnel Russian money into the RNC during the 2016 election, and whom was later pardoned by Trump, at Rand Paul’s urging.
- Former Rand Paul aide, pardoned by Trump, charged with funneling Russian money into 2016 election
- Ex-Rand Paul aide pardoned by Trump convicted of illegally funneling Russian cash to Trump campaign
As far as Gabbard is concerned - no money trails, but even her own staff think she’s compromised.
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Saber rattling, very menacingly.
That's Russia and China in a nutshell. Trump does it too, but that's just because he's mimicking daddy Putin.
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I don't give a fuck about those people. What I give a fuck about is this:
Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control.
Is conflating being against the war with Iran with being Putin's puppet and is drumming support for the war. Stop supporting Trump's war.
Never once did I say that solely being against war with Iran meant someone was Putin's puppet. Never. Either work on your reading comprehension or get your eyes checked.
What I did say is that those specific Republican members who are known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives. This much is clear.
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They have an army of donkeys lined up at the border.
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I mean, many of those leaders were communists... But not agents of the Soviets, which was a convenient accusation tho
Maybe "communist" by the 60s definition as in anyone to the left of keynes then yeah I guess so, but MLK wasn't a communist in any real political sense.
The analogy still holds though, many of the leaders OP is pointing out are regressive right wing nationalist who would naturally align with putin without being agents of the Kremlin.
Both these accusations tend to put the blame of these movements on foreigners meddling with our democracy instead of real strains of thought coming from that democracy that need to be addressed.
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I hate war.
But if daddy Vladdy is mad…
I still hate war.
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I'm just saying that it's amusing the only anti-war Republicans in the administration and Congress are ones who've long looked, acted, and quacked like Kremlin assets:
- You've got Tulsi Gabbard literally echoing Kremlin propaganda verbatim on Western imperialism (yet not making a peep about Russia's invasion of Ukraine)
- You've got Tucker Carlson flying to Moscow, simping for Putin, trying to show how great Russia is in contrast to the USA.
- You've got Rand Paul flying to Moscow hand-delivering letters on behalf of Trump.
There may be an intersection of my desire to not want to escalate for completely different reasons, and Kremlin operatives not wanting their ally and arms supplier to be crippled, but that is all.
Yeah, but have you seen Russian grocery stores? They have food!
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They have an army of donkeys lined up at the border.
etcThey need the donkeys to combat the antelope invasion though
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Putin has already requested that Chuck Schumer write a strongly worded letter on his behalf.
Schumer said he would do it, but forgot 40 minutes later.
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Russia's basically already on two fronts and just lost a huge proportion of its strategic bombers.
Iran is their ally yet they’ve allowed Israel to strike Iran with out repercussions so they’re sending a lot of mixed messages
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Maybe "communist" by the 60s definition as in anyone to the left of keynes then yeah I guess so, but MLK wasn't a communist in any real political sense.
The analogy still holds though, many of the leaders OP is pointing out are regressive right wing nationalist who would naturally align with putin without being agents of the Kremlin.
Both these accusations tend to put the blame of these movements on foreigners meddling with our democracy instead of real strains of thought coming from that democracy that need to be addressed.
Yes, MLK was one of the most moderate representatives of the movement, yet even he was a democratic socialist (even if that played much less of a role in his convictions than his christianity)
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Oh no. Anyways I still hope he gets the Gaddafi treatment and still don't want America to go to war with Iran.
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Yeah, but have you seen Russian grocery stores? They have food!
Im not currently impressed but may change my tune within the year
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Never once did I say that solely being against war with Iran meant someone was Putin's puppet. Never. Either work on your reading comprehension or get your eyes checked.
What I did say is that those specific Republican members who are known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives. This much is clear.
known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives
What "ulterior motives" if not for being Putin's puppets? It can't be because they aren't Israel's puppets like Cruz or Trump. It can't be because war with Iran is fucking stupid.
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Oh no. Anyways I still hope he gets the Gaddafi treatment and still don't want America to go to war with Iran.
America just did go to war with Iran.
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translation from Russian: they will keep bombing schools and hospitals in Ukraine, but now it's going to be a "reaction" just because they were provoked
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America just did go to war with Iran.
Eh, they're still doing the announced tit for tat. Like after soleimani got schwacked, they lobbed missiles at a US airbase and that was the end of it. It's saving face by doing something in response, but also not actually escalating by not inflicting any significant damages.
So, despite how ridiculous it looks calling for peace after an exchange of missiles, that's probably what will happen. The only confounding factor is Israel and that may be the catalyst to sparking more conflict.
The fact that Trump is under the thumb of Israel, who want to obliterate Iran, and putin, who doesn't, is entertaining to say the least. It's a complete crap shoot how this ends up overall.
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I hate war.
But if daddy Vladdy is mad…
I still hate war.
Personally I would be very pleased if both Putin and Khamenei were beaten to death by crooked sticks by an angry mob of pissed of civilians. That being said, I'm still not a fan of war.
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Eh, they're still doing the announced tit for tat. Like after soleimani got schwacked, they lobbed missiles at a US airbase and that was the end of it. It's saving face by doing something in response, but also not actually escalating by not inflicting any significant damages.
So, despite how ridiculous it looks calling for peace after an exchange of missiles, that's probably what will happen. The only confounding factor is Israel and that may be the catalyst to sparking more conflict.
The fact that Trump is under the thumb of Israel, who want to obliterate Iran, and putin, who doesn't, is entertaining to say the least. It's a complete crap shoot how this ends up overall.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Creating "terrorists" a couple of planeloads of bombs at a time. This is not geopolitics. It's war. Only the western world could be so crass. It's only a couple of bombs on sovereign soil....meh. I say this as a Canadian. If the US lobbed bombs at us today I'd be on the warpath. I imagine there are some Iranians with those thoughts as well. It won't be a one and done even if it's not all out traditional war.
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Creating "terrorists" a couple of planeloads of bombs at a time. This is not geopolitics. It's war. Only the western world could be so crass. It's only a couple of bombs on sovereign soil....meh. I say this as a Canadian. If the US lobbed bombs at us today I'd be on the warpath. I imagine there are some Iranians with those thoughts as well. It won't be a one and done even if it's not all out traditional war.
I'm not justifying the initial strikes, just saying that it probably won't escalate. At least not immediately.
