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Bazzite would shut down if Fedora goes ahead with removing 32-bit

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    Idk how to feel about this.

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      Steamos is based on arch and also immutable. Can't they do something like that. Never liked bazzite cause it was fedora based. I feel like any gaming distro should be arch based and making it immutable would fix the arch breaking fear.

      Why is everyone downvoting? It's not really a stupid question when they apparently already tried it.

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        Steamos is based on arch and also immutable. Can't they do something like that. Never liked bazzite cause it was fedora based. I feel like any gaming distro should be arch based and making it immutable would fix the arch breaking fear.

        Why is everyone downvoting? It's not really a stupid question when they apparently already tried it.

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        Building a distro is hard. Building a distro on existing architecture like uBlue is easier, but still hard, especially if you want to do it right. I believe uBlue was the right choice. This is just someone over in upstream doing something stupid.

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          Build Bazzite on the latest Ubuntu stable with snaps removed and 32-bit libraries installed alongside Steam .deb

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            Bazzite shutting down would be tragic ( for me ). I've been quite happy with it. Slowly convincing people to switch. Bazzite was also a relatively low step compared to fixing them a standard distro as all the stuff they want/need is already readily available.

            Telling people I decided to promote another distro because the old one stopped is only going to make me have to restart my efforts with an additional hurdle ( how do you know this one won't stop ).

            I tried a few distros. But I didn't like garuda very much, nobara was okay'ish. Bazzite really clicked for some reason, despite needing a bit of getting used to.

            I'd hate to go distro hunting again. Or try and update cpu schedulers and not brick the whole system.

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              Can someone Eli5 egg 32 bit architectuur is still a thing? Why should Steam be still in 32 ?

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                Can someone Eli5 egg 32 bit architectuur is still a thing? Why should Steam be still in 32 ?

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                Old games and software that will never be updated were built to run on 32 bit libraries.

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                  Old games and software that will never be updated were built to run on 32 bit libraries.

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                  Yeah, but I don't get that I'm ringing 64 bit since win7 and never had trouble running old games.

                  So why still run an is that is dependent on 32 bit?

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                    Yeah, but I don't get that I'm ringing 64 bit since win7 and never had trouble running old games.

                    So why still run an is that is dependent on 32 bit?

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                    The 32 bit libraries are still available for you to run that old software. If it was removed entirely those old games would not run

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                      Build Bazzite on the latest Ubuntu stable with snaps removed and 32-bit libraries installed alongside Steam .deb

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                      Ubuntu stopped releasing 32 bit packages
                      edit: images, not packages, my bad

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                        Bazzite shutting down would be tragic ( for me ). I've been quite happy with it. Slowly convincing people to switch. Bazzite was also a relatively low step compared to fixing them a standard distro as all the stuff they want/need is already readily available.

                        Telling people I decided to promote another distro because the old one stopped is only going to make me have to restart my efforts with an additional hurdle ( how do you know this one won't stop ).

                        I tried a few distros. But I didn't like garuda very much, nobara was okay'ish. Bazzite really clicked for some reason, despite needing a bit of getting used to.

                        I'd hate to go distro hunting again. Or try and update cpu schedulers and not brick the whole system.

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                        Maybe don’t chase the FOTM distro and go for one of those who have stood the test of time?

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                          Kind of amazing that Steam is a 32 bit-only program on Linux, and everyone is making the Fedora project out to be the bad guy here somehow.

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                            Maybe don’t chase the FOTM distro and go for one of those who have stood the test of time?

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                            Would I be in this situation if I took fedora, a distro that has withstood the test of time? Yes.

                            Bazzite being fairly new is completely besides the point.

                            Bazzite and the rest of universal Blue would rather call them a custom install of Fedora rather than a distro IIRC.

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                              Steamos is based on arch and also immutable. Can't they do something like that. Never liked bazzite cause it was fedora based. I feel like any gaming distro should be arch based and making it immutable would fix the arch breaking fear.

                              Why is everyone downvoting? It's not really a stupid question when they apparently already tried it.

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                              Apparently they looked at it and had issues and bugs with arch which could not be fixed:

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1lj9oqw/comment/mzkxkz2

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                              • akasazh@feddit.nlA [email protected]

                                Yeah, but I don't get that I'm ringing 64 bit since win7 and never had trouble running old games.

                                So why still run an is that is dependent on 32 bit?

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                                Win64 contains a full Win32 system.

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                                  Win64 contains a full Win32 system.

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                                  Aha. I see! Thanks for explaining.

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                                    Kind of amazing that Steam is a 32 bit-only program on Linux, and everyone is making the Fedora project out to be the bad guy here somehow.

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                                    Wouldn't the alternative be losing a LOT of old games on Steam?

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                                      Wouldn't the alternative be losing a LOT of old games on Steam?

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                                      There should be nothing wrong with a 64 bit program launching a 32 bit program. If anything, it sounds like Valve is using that as some sort of "comparability insurance"; if you can run steam, you can run almost all games on steam.

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                                        There should be nothing wrong with a 64 bit program launching a 32 bit program. If anything, it sounds like Valve is using that as some sort of "comparability insurance"; if you can run steam, you can run almost all games on steam.

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                                        MacOS stopped supporting 32-bit with Catalina and, according to appleinsider.com, older games won't work on Catalina at all.

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                                          Oh no!

                                          Moves to other Fedora based distro

                                          Anyway.

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