Which browser do you use and why?
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I use Mullvad Browser. It's maintained in coordination with the Tor Project, and is essentially the Tor Browser with Tor itself stripped out. Same browser fingerprinting protections, however, among other things.
This is my lead contender now that Firefox is shitting the bed. Any downsides?
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Using firefox but concerned now
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This is my lead contender now that Firefox is shitting the bed. Any downsides?
Mull browser is deprecated, Ironfox is the community fork
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What’s wrong with Chromium? License or Google backing?
The Google backing. See ublock Origin for example. Google wants less effective ad blockers because ads are 90% of their business. Google removed manifest v2, which is needed for good ad blocking capabilities. Now Chromium, and any browser based on it (Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.), also lose it. Some have said they will manually add it back in to their browser, but that will only be possible for so long as Google’s upstream Chromium base further diverges.
The massive market share of Chromium-based browsers also gives Google near complete control over web standards. There are many websites that use non-standard functionality that only works in Chromium and not Firefox or Safari. Developers also will not adopt new standards unless Google chooses to as well because there would not be enough users to justify it otherwise.
TLDR: Control over Chromium gives Google extremely strong influence over the web and their interests likely do not have much overlap with yours.
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IIRC, it's one of the few add-ons that does work with Librewolf.
I use DarkReader on Librewolf, works just fine. In fact, all of my extensions work.
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Nothing. Just echo chamber hysteria.
All the
Se downvotes really prove your point.I think I might switch to that.
I used Firefox for cross-platform password management. That’s the biggest impact on me.
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All the
Se downvotes really prove your point.I think I might switch to that.
I used Firefox for cross-platform password management. That’s the biggest impact on me.
Who cares about downvotes from people which become irrational about a browser engine, lol.
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Using firefox but concerned now
Firefox. Google removed a valuable addon from their store without justifiable reason and kept it removed because there's not sufficient backlash.
The addon is AdNauseam. It's an improvement on uBlock Origin that clicks adds in addition to hiding them.
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They are better in most of the case, Firefox only is not that good...
Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see how they can be better beyond philosophical reasons.
I guess bringing back stuff like the proper dropdown menu we had in the 2000s would be an example, but I don't expect most of them to do something like that.
I expect most of them to have some kind of gimmick that isn't relevant to how I use a web browser.
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I'm a Firefox user and I'm not really that bothered about this tos changes. If they do mess things up I'll probably just switch to some fork that doesn't do the fuckery.
Wouldn't be surprised if Mint packages Firefox with it (whatever "it" is) disabled, since they build Thunderbird without telemetry.
Practical response.
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You're right but first don't worry the biggest part of people use stock Firefox and secondly Firefox stock is just not as private as a fork
The biggest part of people use Chrome-based browsers.
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Using firefox but concerned now
Firefox. I'm not going to help the Chromium monopoly.
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Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see how they can be better beyond philosophical reasons.
I guess bringing back stuff like the proper dropdown menu we had in the 2000s would be an example, but I don't expect most of them to do something like that.
I expect most of them to have some kind of gimmick that isn't relevant to how I use a web browser.
Privacy, simply better, better anti-fingerprinting.
Sure you can do it with stock Firefox but it's just simpler to have a pre-hardened browser -
I found a decent answer here https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/18g8tez/what_am_i_gaining_if_i_switch_from_librewolf_to/
That mod sums up a lot that I found. I don’t know the answer because they both have odd downsides.
Yes they’re both forks!
Didn't Waterfox get bought out by an ad company?
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The biggest part of people use Chrome-based browsers.
Even when using forks of Firefox you are contributing to the Mozilla project and can support it as well
Using librewolf is better than using chrome in term of support for the main devs Mozilla -
Using firefox but concerned now
Zen as main driver because of its features that are on par with Chromium-based_Vivaldi browser_, and LibreWolf on "older" machines or systems that require stability/consistency. Both are awesome to me.
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The fingerprint protections in Librewolf already protect against canvas fingerprinting. You actually make ourself stand out even mkre by using it. Even with RFP disable, ETP still protects against canvas fingerprinting.
Nice, I was unaware, thanks!
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Didn't Waterfox get bought out by an ad company?
yes and then sold and FOSS again!
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Privacy, simply better, better anti-fingerprinting.
Sure you can do it with stock Firefox but it's just simpler to have a pre-hardened browserWhat privacy and fingerprinting concerns are there with Firefox?
simply better
Lol. That's not a reason, ya goof.
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Even when using forks of Firefox you are contributing to the Mozilla project and can support it as well
Using librewolf is better than using chrome in term of support for the main devs MozillaThe thing is that it's not very common for people who use a fork to donate or encourage contributions to Mozilla... most of the people who go for forks do it because they do not trust Mozilla in the first place or don't agree with the decisions they take with the Firefox project.
So if this became the majority of users, I don't think Mozilla would keep developing Firefox, at least not at the level that they are now. In fact, I think even today Mozilla is not seeing much gain in maintaining Firefox, since they are now starting side projects to make money in other ways.
If there was a separate foundation that was started by all these forks to keep a foundation where to build on that isn't connected to Mozilla.. then that would be good in my book. But as things stand, those projects depend on Mozilla.
