Which browser do you use and why?
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No, because the Mozilla's new policy doesnt apply to forks.
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Ungoogled chromium. It's faster then firefox in nearly everything I test, doesn't have stupid issues like not rendering gradients properly.
I use firefox on my desktop for one single reason, and that's because there is literally nothing for chromium, that is remotely close to simple tab groups.
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Brave, FOSS. Because it's the best one I have found for my use case.
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Nothing. Just echo chamber hysteria.
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Uninstalled firefox yesterday. Trying out vivaldi, the company lead has a history of advocacy. Might give librewolf a go soon, need a browser that ping pongs mobile and desktop seamlessly, has ad blocks available and a flatpack.
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I'm a Firefox user and I'm not really that bothered about this tos changes. If they do mess things up I'll probably just switch to some fork that doesn't do the fuckery.
Wouldn't be surprised if Mint packages Firefox with it (whatever "it" is) disabled, since they build Thunderbird without telemetry.
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I use Firefox. I don't like the changes but I don't want to use any downstream browsers and I don't think any of the not-downstream alternatives do better.
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Mullvad browser, simply I used to used hardened Firefox but a pre-hardened one is so much more efficient
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They are better in most of the case, Firefox only is not that good...
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I just don't care for downstream projects on browsers, with software so critical I want to get the updates in as fast as possible. I know some of those mentioned in OP had issues with that in the past. And not much reason to anyway for me to switch, Firefox works perfectly fine for me, so there's not much added benefit.
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Understand your point of view but in fact the 2 problems you mentioned are mainly not problems :
1 - Updates? The main downstream browsers received updates the same time as Firefox the same day and sometime the same hour
2 - Benefits? The benefits are mainly under the hood, removing Mozilla telemetry and annoying features (account, pocket...) AND the biggest advantages are the gain in term of privacy due the increase of anti fingerprinting methods
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There is a search engine for it and sometimes from my friends/youtube it isn't super hard to find onion sites (if this is what you mean)
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Updates? The main downstream browsers received updates the same time as Firefox the same day and sometime the same hour
I'm not sure if something has changed, but due to changes they've made, at least before they couldn't ship out the updates until they made it so that the updates actually affect their changed codebase. Which understandably causes delays. So there'd always be this delay with something being fixed on Firefox and then being fixed on the downstream projects.
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Surely there will be some delay but not that much, for most updates the fixes are transplanted directly to the downstream project making the patches coming very fast, almost as fast as the original project
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I've just soured on them from when there has been issues. Some security patches took a while because of the changed codebase. Good if that doesn't happen anymore though.
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Should retry it and make your own decision
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Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.
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I share your general reasoning (about staying with Firefox). Except this:
Firefox works perfectly fine for me, so there’s not much added benefit
The added benefit of going with one of the downstream forks is that you can be sure they're not gonna pull some new monetization trick next month. That does count for something.
BUT, again, I share your concerns about security, that's why I'll likely stay with Firefox till the end.
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But who's making these "updates"? Who's doing the actual work of keeping the software secure? Mozilla is.
If everybody moves to a free-riding fork, Mozilla goes to 0% and there will be no browser let alone updates.
