Which browser do you use and why?
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Mullvad browser, simply I used to used hardened Firefox but a pre-hardened one is so much more efficient
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They are better in most of the case, Firefox only is not that good...
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I just don't care for downstream projects on browsers, with software so critical I want to get the updates in as fast as possible. I know some of those mentioned in OP had issues with that in the past. And not much reason to anyway for me to switch, Firefox works perfectly fine for me, so there's not much added benefit.
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Understand your point of view but in fact the 2 problems you mentioned are mainly not problems :
1 - Updates? The main downstream browsers received updates the same time as Firefox the same day and sometime the same hour
2 - Benefits? The benefits are mainly under the hood, removing Mozilla telemetry and annoying features (account, pocket...) AND the biggest advantages are the gain in term of privacy due the increase of anti fingerprinting methods
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There is a search engine for it and sometimes from my friends/youtube it isn't super hard to find onion sites (if this is what you mean)
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Updates? The main downstream browsers received updates the same time as Firefox the same day and sometime the same hour
I'm not sure if something has changed, but due to changes they've made, at least before they couldn't ship out the updates until they made it so that the updates actually affect their changed codebase. Which understandably causes delays. So there'd always be this delay with something being fixed on Firefox and then being fixed on the downstream projects.
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Surely there will be some delay but not that much, for most updates the fixes are transplanted directly to the downstream project making the patches coming very fast, almost as fast as the original project
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I've just soured on them from when there has been issues. Some security patches took a while because of the changed codebase. Good if that doesn't happen anymore though.
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Should retry it and make your own decision
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Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.
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I share your general reasoning (about staying with Firefox). Except this:
Firefox works perfectly fine for me, so there’s not much added benefit
The added benefit of going with one of the downstream forks is that you can be sure they're not gonna pull some new monetization trick next month. That does count for something.
BUT, again, I share your concerns about security, that's why I'll likely stay with Firefox till the end.
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But who's making these "updates"? Who's doing the actual work of keeping the software secure? Mozilla is.
If everybody moves to a free-riding fork, Mozilla goes to 0% and there will be no browser let alone updates.
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I'm confused. I've already made my decision when I used them before and it doesn't seem like the main thing (them being just downstream of Firefox) has changed? Like said, I don't see the benefits being big enough to warrant a switch.
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The added benefit of going with one of the downstream forks is that you can be sure they’re not gonna pull some new monetization trick next month. That does count for something.
It doesn't count for much, if they do that I can just switch then.
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You're right but first don't worry the biggest part of people use stock Firefox and secondly Firefox stock is just not as private as a fork
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If it's not for me then you are free to stay with stock firefox
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Yes, that's my thinking. For now it's acceptable.
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How is a hobbyist fork of Firefox selling your data and slurping up whatever they want from the browser? People use forks because the company's telemetry and data collection are often removed from the fork.
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Let's hope it doesn't get much worse than this. The direction is pretty alarming.
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That's what I said
