I know Phones dont listen but....
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Well shit. That makes a lot of sense.
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Somehow I find this much worse.
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Phones absolutely listen. But they probably process the speech locally, unless there’s a trigger word flagged, and send mostly text.
But then it was found Google would upload the audio when a zipper sound was heard, so who knows how often your triggering spy conditions.
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so it’s listening, but it’s not recording/saving/processing anything until it hears the trigger phrase.
I think this is the part I hold issue with. How can you catch the right fish, unless you're routinely casting your fishing net?
I agree that the processing/battery cost of this process is small, but I do think that they're not just throwing away the other fish, but putting them into specific baskets.
I hold no issue with the rest of your comment
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Phones abaolutely do listen, but not to audio via the mic. When Apple and Google tell you they respect your privacy, they mean they don't harvest data directly from a live feed of the mic nor camera; they still scan your files in some cases, and they harvest your browsing history, and read your text messages metadata, and check your youtube watch history, and scan your contacts, and check your location, and harvest hundreds of other litttle tiny data points that don't seem like much but add up to a big profile of you and your behavior and psyche.
So your friend was at a pub quiz with a couple dozen other people, and his phone knew where he was and who was nearby. A statistically significant portion of the people there were not privacy conscious and googled "Lord of the Rings runtime" or something similar. All that data got harvested by Google and Apple, and processed, and then the most recent and fitting entry from some master list of customers' sites' articles was pushed to all their newsfeeds.
Humans don't understand intuitively how much information is being processed through nonverbal means at any given time, and that's the disconnect large companies exploit when they say misleading things like "noooo, your phone isn't listening to you."
But it's totally not privacy invasive, because at no point along the line did a human view your data (/s)
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My fairphone even SHOWED me the mic was running, in the top banner. Sure enough, google had accessed my mic that minute, clearly stated in the settings. I've turned it off since, but I don't trust that. I'll have to get around to switching to calyx.
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Phones are spyware by definition
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Well neither dies the cost of llm but that's bit stopping them
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This could also be the baader-meinhof phenomenon (also known as the frequency illusion)
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Please charge your phone
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The person asking the trivia question needed to know the answer, so they could determine who was correct.
Phones, as I understand them, average about 30 pings per second. That's 30 times per second the phone is checking for signal strength with the nearest tower, among other data.
They also work with any device that has wifi or bluetooth to help with location triangulation. So anyone at trivia that had their phone on them and powered, had their position noted as well as their proximity to others. If the location has smart TV's on the walls, those were picking up the pings as well. If they have internet available to customers, there's another point picking up the info.
It's already been shown that a few companies have listened to microphones. The data being extrapolated is so large, listening to the microphone would be counterproductive and redundant. There are devices everywhere, security cameras, billboards, inside each row of shelves at your grocery store, in every car that has a computer, lights at intersections, smart watches and other IOT devices, even appliances these days have wifi and bluetooth like refridgerators, coffee pots, robot vacuums, treadmills, i could go on.
It's scary that some company might be listening to your through your phones microphone but the real scary thing is that they don't need to. They knew people at that trivia game would be searching for that answer before the question was even asked, without needing to listen in.
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Phones listen but not on the way you think, I'd say they just listen for keywords the same way it listens for "hey Google" also who knows maybe he searched it beforehand or is a fan
