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You can see who upvoted and downvoted a post by viewing it in friendica.

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  • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

    Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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    I don't know this name, I read its part of the Fediverse... Does this affect us?

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    • m_f@discuss.onlineM [email protected]

      The userbase is small enough that hashing would be easy cracked by a determined person. Even with salting, iterating through the entire userbase and hashing each username+salt to check for a match would probably not take long

      irelephant@lemm.eeI This user is from outside of this forum
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      What if a uuid is generated every time a user signs up, and every upvote iterates through the uuids?

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      • rglullis@communick.newsR [email protected]

        How long until it gets abused, and trolls start brigading though instances that hide their votes?

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        Or mentally unwell people stalking.

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        • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

          But they can just be banned from those instances?

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          How would that work? How would an admin separate downvotes from brigaders and legitimate users who happen to downvote a comment?

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          • A [email protected]

            There's no way that isn't going to be abused. Some marketing or tracking agency will setup a fediverse server and just collect all data like this for free. Or worse, take advantage of a friendica instance to bombard it with requests for data collection purposes.

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            Yes, but as long as you don’t reveal your identity, they can’t do much to track you.

            They don’t have access to your IP.

            Of course, it you’re using the same username over multiple services, or reveal identifying information (which is much easier to analyse now due to AI) they will be able to track you.

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            • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA [email protected]

              Or you can be an instance admin.
              In the next lemmy version (1.0.0), mods will also be able to view votes in their communities.

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              You can already do it with a database query iirc.

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              • F [email protected]

                Yes, but as long as you don’t reveal your identity, they can’t do much to track you.

                They don’t have access to your IP.

                Of course, it you’re using the same username over multiple services, or reveal identifying information (which is much easier to analyse now due to AI) they will be able to track you.

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                Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?

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                  Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?

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                  #28

                  Nope just server

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                  • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                    Ah, well that sucks 😞 i thought it just used a different strategy to do so if it was trusted, not outright disable it.

                    Will correct it, thanks

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                    #29

                    IIRC PieFed’s method is to send the upvote using a second random username not connected to your username.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?

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                      I think server admins can access. It makes sense moderation wise, if for keeping a tab on alts alts and enforcing permabans.

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                      • microw@lemm.eeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Well yes, the whole concept of the fediverse is that of social media as a public service. All activitypub data is public.

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                        • microw@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                          Well yes, the whole concept of the fediverse is that of social media as a public service. All activitypub data is public.

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                          So you're agreeing with me that it will be abused.

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                          • A [email protected]

                            So you're agreeing with me that it will be abused.

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                            Not them but yes but it's not a feature of the system, it's a failure of the humans.

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                            • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                              Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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                              I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone

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                                I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone

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                                Its webui is responsive (i think), its compatible with the mastodon api.

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone

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                                  Raccoon for Friendica is great if you're on Android.

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                                  • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    This feature has been available to all kbin/Mbin users since the beginning, btw.

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                                      Not them but yes but it's not a feature of the system, it's a failure of the humans.

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                                      What is it that you mean by that? Do you mind rephrasing your reply?

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                                      • rglullis@communick.newsR [email protected]

                                        How would that work? How would an admin separate downvotes from brigaders and legitimate users who happen to downvote a comment?

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                                        Banning trolls would be doable - they'd have patterns where they target specific users across many different communities. If the same user downvotes everything I've ever said, from controversial political takes to pictures of food to posts about gardening, that's probably a malicious user.

                                        But "brigading" doesn't mean anything and I don't respect the concept. You can't ban it because you can't define it in a way that doesn't include normal usage of the site.

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                                        • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

                                          This feature has been available to all kbin/Mbin users since the beginning, btw.

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                                          I wanna say it was built into Lemmy originally as well but they removed it from the FE

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