You can see who upvoted and downvoted a post by viewing it in friendica.
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But they can just be banned from those instances?
How would that work? How would an admin separate downvotes from brigaders and legitimate users who happen to downvote a comment?
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There's no way that isn't going to be abused. Some marketing or tracking agency will setup a fediverse server and just collect all data like this for free. Or worse, take advantage of a friendica instance to bombard it with requests for data collection purposes.
Yes, but as long as you don’t reveal your identity, they can’t do much to track you.
They don’t have access to your IP.
Of course, it you’re using the same username over multiple services, or reveal identifying information (which is much easier to analyse now due to AI) they will be able to track you.
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Or you can be an instance admin.
In the next lemmy version (1.0.0), mods will also be able to view votes in their communities.You can already do it with a database query iirc.
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Yes, but as long as you don’t reveal your identity, they can’t do much to track you.
They don’t have access to your IP.
Of course, it you’re using the same username over multiple services, or reveal identifying information (which is much easier to analyse now due to AI) they will be able to track you.
Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?
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Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?
Nope just server
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Ah, well that sucks
i thought it just used a different strategy to do so if it was trusted, not outright disable it.Will correct it, thanks
IIRC PieFed’s method is to send the upvote using a second random username not connected to your username.
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Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?
I think server admins can access. It makes sense moderation wise, if for keeping a tab on alts alts and enforcing permabans.
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Well yes, the whole concept of the fediverse is that of social media as a public service. All activitypub data is public.
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Well yes, the whole concept of the fediverse is that of social media as a public service. All activitypub data is public.
So you're agreeing with me that it will be abused.
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So you're agreeing with me that it will be abused.
Not them but yes but it's not a feature of the system, it's a failure of the humans.
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Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.
I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone
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I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone
Its webui is responsive (i think), its compatible with the mastodon api.
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I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone
Raccoon for Friendica is great if you're on Android.
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This feature has been available to all kbin/Mbin users since the beginning, btw.
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Not them but yes but it's not a feature of the system, it's a failure of the humans.
What is it that you mean by that? Do you mind rephrasing your reply?
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How would that work? How would an admin separate downvotes from brigaders and legitimate users who happen to downvote a comment?
Banning trolls would be doable - they'd have patterns where they target specific users across many different communities. If the same user downvotes everything I've ever said, from controversial political takes to pictures of food to posts about gardening, that's probably a malicious user.
But "brigading" doesn't mean anything and I don't respect the concept. You can't ban it because you can't define it in a way that doesn't include normal usage of the site.
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This feature has been available to all kbin/Mbin users since the beginning, btw.
I wanna say it was built into Lemmy originally as well but they removed it from the FE
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What can they use that data for?
It would only be usable data if they could show personalized ads to the users. They can’t.
All they know is that Meldrik up/downvoted this and that, but outside of Lemmy they have no idea who Meldrik is.
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What is it that you mean by that? Do you mind rephrasing your reply?
Tools do not have morality or ethics, only people do. Some people use tools in a morally and/or ethically questionable manner, either for profit or because it amuses them.
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What is it that you mean by that? Do you mind rephrasing your reply?
It's the age old argument of "It's not Communism that's bad, it's the human element."
Speaking as if any system created by humans will ever be free of the human element, which is of course faulty logic.
