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Will using non-gmail hurt my chance of getting hired?

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  • U [email protected]

    I'm using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?

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    if your domain is like cock.li or smth then maybe, but protonmail.com sounds pretty professional

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    • I [email protected]

      Or a hotmail.com one

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      #48

      Hey, I still got one.

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      • U [email protected]

        I thought Google Workspace mailboxes aren't scanned?

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        #49

        Google Workspaces still have spam filtering in place, it'd be unusable if not. Admins can create rules for additional scanning if needed. You could also check the MX record to see if you're actually sending to Google first, or a third party scanner who then forwards to Google Workspace.

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        • eru@mouse.chitanda.moeE [email protected]

          if your domain is like cock.li or smth then maybe, but protonmail.com sounds pretty professional

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          cock.li

          @cocaine.ninja

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          • _lordmcnuggets_@feddit.org_ [email protected]

            I don't see any reason why it would affect your application(s) in the slightest. A good CV is a good CV. You could have @goatfondler.com for all I care.

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            Great! I can finally relax about my @ryongnamsan.edu.kp email.

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            • U [email protected]

              I thought Google Workspace mailboxes aren't scanned?

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              #52

              They do say that. And I can't say they'd tell us if they started. But for the moment let's assume they still don't. I also can't say that they'd tell us if the government asked them to. But let's put a pin in that too.

              They do not claim not to scan the SMTP and mail transport. We know that they do scan it try to discern spam.

              Do you trust them not to sell that juicy email they just scanned from an external email address?

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              • U [email protected]

                I'm using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?

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                #53

                It's all good, especially now that they have proton.me when it was protonmail.com I had some issues saying it over the phone as some people didn't understand and it is long to spell.

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                • U [email protected]

                  I'm using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?

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                  #54

                  @umami_wasbi Getting hired for what exactly?

                  My gut feeling is it might decrease your chance of getting hired by an average soul destroying big corporate, but increase your chances of being hired by a better company that values autonomy and people who think differently.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    Proton leaked a user's IP address to law enforcement, you should seek alternatives. source: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/

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                    #55

                    They complied with a swiss court order, what's surprising there?

                    Alternatives like Tuta would be subject to the jurisdiction of the Germany, and Germany's laws are not as good as Switzerland, as they are part of the 14 Eyes. You don't actually believe alternatives like Tuta would defy a court order, right?

                    (Pro tip: Maybe use a VPN to hide your IP. ProtonVPN is subject to different laws as Protonmail and if the activist have used the VPN, their IP would not have been leaked)

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                    • R [email protected]

                      Sorry to bother you but, any recommendations for several year work gap on my resume ?

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                      #56

                      As others have commented, a gap in your resume shouldn't even be a part of the conversation since it's just an absence of anything that would be relevant to the hiring process. Doesn't mean you won't be asked though, unfortunately, and I have experience being the candidate with a long gap, so I can tell you how I handled this.

                      Sitting on the hiring side of the table, my only concern is that you weren't just twiddling your thumbs. If you had personal matters to take care of, unpaid projects to focus on, family to look after, that is all part of life and none of my business. When explaining my own employment gap, I was frank about how my previous appointment had taken its toll on my mental health, and that I wanted to reconnect with other aspects of my life before taking on another role. I didn't go into any specifics, but made sure to mention that part of this time was spent studying stuff that's relevant in my field and exploring emerging technologies.

                      No matter how long a gap, it's not something you should acknowledge or attempt to explain in your resume or cover letter, and it's not something you need to bring up yourself in the interview. My view is that it's bad etiquette to even ask, and you should try to adopt this mentality yourself so that you project confidence if you have to answer the question. You have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Your life is more than your CV.

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                        cock.li

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                        @giveme.work

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                        • hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

                          As others have commented, a gap in your resume shouldn't even be a part of the conversation since it's just an absence of anything that would be relevant to the hiring process. Doesn't mean you won't be asked though, unfortunately, and I have experience being the candidate with a long gap, so I can tell you how I handled this.

                          Sitting on the hiring side of the table, my only concern is that you weren't just twiddling your thumbs. If you had personal matters to take care of, unpaid projects to focus on, family to look after, that is all part of life and none of my business. When explaining my own employment gap, I was frank about how my previous appointment had taken its toll on my mental health, and that I wanted to reconnect with other aspects of my life before taking on another role. I didn't go into any specifics, but made sure to mention that part of this time was spent studying stuff that's relevant in my field and exploring emerging technologies.

                          No matter how long a gap, it's not something you should acknowledge or attempt to explain in your resume or cover letter, and it's not something you need to bring up yourself in the interview. My view is that it's bad etiquette to even ask, and you should try to adopt this mentality yourself so that you project confidence if you have to answer the question. You have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Your life is more than your CV.

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                          Thanks to everyone who replied with advice. Appreciate it a lot.

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                          • shootwhatsmyname@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                            @giveme.work

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                            @national.shitposting.agency

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                            • R [email protected]

                              The roles I've hired for require formal presentation of work/studies with a certain level of attention to detail, and more internal politics than I care to admit.

                              So while its never the sole deciding factor in a resume I do put weight on spelling, formatting, and general professionalism. If your email is [email protected], or [email protected] I'm not immediately binning it, but you are starting from a disadvantage. [email protected] is always gonna be just fine though.

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                              I'm changing my name to Stephanie right now, and buying harmlessdomain.com if it's available! Then I'll always be fine!

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                              • U [email protected]

                                I'm using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?

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                                #61

                                It shouldn’t matter. When you get hired, they’ll give you a new email address to use.

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                                • U [email protected]

                                  I'm using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?

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                                  I use [email protected]
                                  I bought my firstlast.tld several years ago. Figure it would look good. I then put a modified resume on my domain but when I started to think about being a security professional that didn't seem like a good idea. I now have my domain bring up the IP, browser, and few other pieces of info and show it to whoever goes to the site. It either that or blank.

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                                  • U [email protected]

                                    I'm using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?

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                                    #63

                                    As many have said, it shouldn't matter.

                                    Personally, I have been known to look at email addresses because I assess everything the resume gives me. No, I don't really care what provider you choose, but it's a tiny bit of information.

                                    So if your email name is "BigBootyQT" then I have a glimpse of your personality and how you may or may not fit in the role. That's a real example BTW.
                                    It also might bear light in other ways, say if you're applying for a job in cybersscurity but you're using a yahoo email. Yeah, that's a negative mark.

                                    Will any of this be THE reason I ditch somebody? No. But it weighs with the rest of it. I would not disqualify somebody for a typo for instance, but it is a negative because that should not have occurred (especially of the role requires attention to detail).

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                                      I'm changing my name to Stephanie right now, and buying harmlessdomain.com if it's available! Then I'll always be fine!

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                                      You're hired!

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        I'm changing my name to Stephanie right now, and buying harmlessdomain.com if it's available! Then I'll always be fine!

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                                        harmlessdomain.com is available - I expect to see it registered by tomorrow or I'm never trusting a stranger on the internet ever again!

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          They complied with a swiss court order, what's surprising there?

                                          Alternatives like Tuta would be subject to the jurisdiction of the Germany, and Germany's laws are not as good as Switzerland, as they are part of the 14 Eyes. You don't actually believe alternatives like Tuta would defy a court order, right?

                                          (Pro tip: Maybe use a VPN to hide your IP. ProtonVPN is subject to different laws as Protonmail and if the activist have used the VPN, their IP would not have been leaked)

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                                          They should not record the IP in the first place. It looks like you are right about using a VPN on top of their email service according to this.

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