Stumbled upon this in the France community when browsing Local. Needs to be shared wider.
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Delegating the task of protection of our rights to someone, thereby allowing the gap, in the ability to apply force, between you and those who are supposed to protect your rights, to widen, always carries the risk of your delegates one day refusing to fulfill their end of the bargain by using their power to violate your rights instead.
But is it really the case that most of us are willing and able to protect our rights by ourselves?
No, it isn't the case that we are able to protect our rights by ourselves. I hate reality and all of humanity.
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That's missing the context of when this image was first posted (post 2015 Charlie Hebdo attacks when the government went full authoritarian) - https://www.liberation.fr/debats/2016/01/28/la-derive-autoritaire-de-la-france-inquiete-bruxelles_1812820/
Thanks, I didn't realize that was the context.
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Okay, but what if I depict security as a pug?
What I'm saying is I'm having trouble with the initial premise, not necessarily the conclusion.
An attack happens and the pug gets so worked up that it is unable to breathe properly due to generational line breeding, seizes, and dies. Libertiegh gets her purse stolen and is super bummed about the whole thing. She goes to the pound just to look and the OP image occurs.
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—Chuck Norris
-Wayne Gretzky
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Thanks, I didn't realize that was the context.
No worries!
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Eh, one can't really make a decent analysis using vague abstract ideals like 'liberty' and 'security'.
In some ways, security is liberating! For example, some religions have anonymous (private) confessionals and electoralism has anonymous private ballot booths to encourage freedom in voting. I don't know if I'd be as honest online if I knew people with too much time and money could track my posts back to my real identity and harass me.
And obviously, on the other hand, state security understandably sees certain personal liberties (like downloading bomb-making guides and then buying fertilizer) as a risk beyond the liberty they're willing to permit. Corporate security might see user anonymity techniques as a legitimate fraud/bot risk. I've picked diverse and good-faith examples to demonstrate, there's plenty of midground and abusive examples of both, don't worry, I know. (I left reddit many years ago partly for privacy reasons, no need to preach to the choir).
I guess my point is, security and liberties don't necessarily contradict. But if you have governments run by the owning class, they have a material interest in suppressing your liberties for their own security. To make that appealing and tolerable, they have an incentive to rebrand this as being about your security. I've been in protests that obviously wouldn't harm a fly and the police presence is consistently absurd. It's clearly not actually about any of our security, or even the security of property owners, but rather the security of the bourgeois owning class.
sure security is important. but notice how the dog has grown to be much larger than the person walking it
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—Chuck Norris
Fuck Chuck Norris in his Maga supporting and Christo fascist face.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2694719
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2685916
OK, c’est pas vraiment "l’image du jour". Elle correspond plus à la période troublée que nous traversons actuellement.
What's the hat pattern?
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Fuck Chuck Norris in his Maga supporting and Christo fascist face.
Wait, he's MAGA? Christ, it's so hard to keep up on who's gone off the deep end.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2694719
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2685916
OK, c’est pas vraiment "l’image du jour". Elle correspond plus à la période troublée que nous traversons actuellement.
Anyone know the source of this version? I've seen several similar versions over the years. And what is the hat representing, since that's new to me.
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An important distinction is security for whom? When a capitalist government passes some piece of security legislation, 99% of the time it is security for the bourgeoisie class, not the proletariat class.
The Marxism/privacy intersectional analysis of society is something I never expected to see. Although I welcome it thoroughly.
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What's the hat pattern?
It's commonly known as a 'liberty cap'. They show up in a lot of flags and media from the 18th and 19th centuries.
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Anyone know the source of this version? I've seen several similar versions over the years. And what is the hat representing, since that's new to me.
It's a cap reused by the French revolution. A woman with such cap represents Marianne, the personification of the French Republic.
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Wait, he's MAGA? Christ, it's so hard to keep up on who's gone off the deep end.
I knew that before I knew it.
He always was that type. -
I knew that before I knew it.
He always was that type.Man, childhood ruined.
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French fries, shorly.
Which are from Belgium by the way.
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Wait, he's MAGA? Christ, it's so hard to keep up on who's gone off the deep end.
Yeah, sadly. He's super-religious, and a hardcore right winger. He attempted to turn the whole OG Chuck Norris Meme from the early 00's, into some ministry for Jesus, completely missing the point.
He's been a pretty hardcore republican since at least Reagan IIRC.
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Yeah, sadly. He's super-religious, and a hardcore right winger. He attempted to turn the whole OG Chuck Norris Meme from the early 00's, into some ministry for Jesus, completely missing the point.
He's been a pretty hardcore republican since at least Reagan IIRC.
Well, at least I know now.
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Yeah, sadly. He's super-religious, and a hardcore right winger. He attempted to turn the whole OG Chuck Norris Meme from the early 00's, into some ministry for Jesus, completely missing the point.
He's been a pretty hardcore republican since at least Reagan IIRC.
He's been on Alex Jones multiple times, though most times he's been on to support some Christian things and not really listening to Jones' talking points.
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The Marxism/privacy intersectional analysis of society is something I never expected to see. Although I welcome it thoroughly.
But the FrEe MaRkEt!!
Or something.
Yeah, I don’t miss the /r/conservative idiots either.
