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This is a joke right? (Xbox ROG Ally)

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  • umbrella@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

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    Well according to information out there they did get permition to tweak Windows to make it much more sutible for gaming handhelds.

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      it's more or less just a new app

      You know a reason why Linux with Steam runs just way better than win? Because they use game scope, therefore not needing to render and run all of the desktop.

      So what does Microsoft do? They release a new app on top of the already bloated desktop.

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      Gamescope is a compositor. It has many useful gaming features, but it doesn’t have a major performance advantage over desktops like Gnome, KDE, or tilers.

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        Oh dear god it is apparently serious.

        https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/06/08/xbox-handheld-rog-ally-x-games-showcase/

        Any guesses for MSRP?

        $1200 for the X variant?

        $600?

        Will MSFT bet the farm, take the upfront loss on the unit, and try to convince everyone this is both their next handheld and their next mainline living room console at the same time?

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        Nah. The ROG Ally X they already make with windows 11 and 1 TB is $800+tax. The ROG Ally that came before it was $700 and currently sells for like $400 or so.

        The 2TB Rog Ally X is about $1k + tax. I honestly doubt they can get people to pay more than that for a handheld, regardless of the Z2 chip. They are having trouble selling the ones they currently make. Add to this that Lenovo just launched the steam os variant of their newest handheld and it's significantly cheaper.

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          it's more or less just a new app

          You know a reason why Linux with Steam runs just way better than win? Because they use game scope, therefore not needing to render and run all of the desktop.

          So what does Microsoft do? They release a new app on top of the already bloated desktop.

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          Funny how this is exactly the opposite of what they're doing, but sure, keep on raging.

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          • fenrasulfr@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

            Well according to information out there they did get permition to tweak Windows to make it much more sutible for gaming handhelds.

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              ROFL More like chains of Microsoft!

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                That form factor has me interested. Wonder if I can get something like that for the deck

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                  That form factor has me interested. Wonder if I can get something like that for the deck

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                  Just install Bazzite on it.

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                  • that_leaflet@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    Gamescope is a compositor. It has many useful gaming features, but it doesn’t have a major performance advantage over desktops like Gnome, KDE, or tilers.

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                    The performance advantage comes from the fact that there isn't a full-fat desktop running concurrently with the game. You're booting directly into Steam.

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                      Nah. The ROG Ally X they already make with windows 11 and 1 TB is $800+tax. The ROG Ally that came before it was $700 and currently sells for like $400 or so.

                      The 2TB Rog Ally X is about $1k + tax. I honestly doubt they can get people to pay more than that for a handheld, regardless of the Z2 chip. They are having trouble selling the ones they currently make. Add to this that Lenovo just launched the steam os variant of their newest handheld and it's significantly cheaper.

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                      To be fair, the Legion S uses the Z2 Go chip, which is basically same benchmarks as a Z1 Extreme. If this uses the Z2, that's gonna be faster.

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                        We've known for a bit they were going to do this.

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                        I'm honestly surprised they didn't do it sooner. They already had half of the work done for Xbox. Should have been relatively easy to start with just the interface for all PCs and then iterate from there.

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                          The one thing I took away from it was that the Xbox-button acts as alt tab. I WANT THE SAME FROM MY STEAM DECK IN DESKTOP MODE!

                          But in Desktop mode the Steam button does absolutely nothing while a game is running.

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                            "Freedom of Windows" "Power of Xbox" Good stuff. We should make some more.
                            "From a brand you can trust"
                            "Pro gamers choose ... "
                            "Powered by Copilot and Game pass"

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                              It the Zune for gaming.

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                                Apparently it will come to all desktops.

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                                • fenrasulfr@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                  Everyone that is scared they can't play the most popular online games on their handheld. So theoretically a massive demographic according to research (most pc gamers play older live service titles) done but whether they would want a gaming handheld is a different question.

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                                  There's apparently a chunk of gamers who can't leave Windows because of GamePass. However, I don't know whether it's a significant portion.

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                                    "Freedom of Windows" "Power of Xbox" Good stuff. We should make some more.
                                    "From a brand you can trust"
                                    "Pro gamers choose ... "
                                    "Powered by Copilot and Game pass"

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                                    Well gamepass on a cheap handheld doesn't sound so bad tbh

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                                    • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

                                      The one thing I took away from it was that the Xbox-button acts as alt tab. I WANT THE SAME FROM MY STEAM DECK IN DESKTOP MODE!

                                      But in Desktop mode the Steam button does absolutely nothing while a game is running.

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                                      I guess you could remap them in desktop mode? I haven't tried but it should be possible.

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                                        The one thing I took away from it was that the Xbox-button acts as alt tab. I WANT THE SAME FROM MY STEAM DECK IN DESKTOP MODE!

                                        But in Desktop mode the Steam button does absolutely nothing while a game is running.

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                                        Why do you use desktop mode for a game?

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                                        • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                                          Just install Bazzite on it.

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                                          Then buy the rog ally.

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