This is a joke right? (Xbox ROG Ally)
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Gamescope is a compositor. It has many useful gaming features, but it doesn’t have a major performance advantage over desktops like Gnome, KDE, or tilers.
The performance advantage comes from the fact that there isn't a full-fat desktop running concurrently with the game. You're booting directly into Steam.
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Nah. The ROG Ally X they already make with windows 11 and 1 TB is $800+tax. The ROG Ally that came before it was $700 and currently sells for like $400 or so.
The 2TB Rog Ally X is about $1k + tax. I honestly doubt they can get people to pay more than that for a handheld, regardless of the Z2 chip. They are having trouble selling the ones they currently make. Add to this that Lenovo just launched the steam os variant of their newest handheld and it's significantly cheaper.
To be fair, the Legion S uses the Z2 Go chip, which is basically same benchmarks as a Z1 Extreme. If this uses the Z2, that's gonna be faster.
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We've known for a bit they were going to do this.
I'm honestly surprised they didn't do it sooner. They already had half of the work done for Xbox. Should have been relatively easy to start with just the interface for all PCs and then iterate from there.
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The one thing I took away from it was that the Xbox-button acts as alt tab. I WANT THE SAME FROM MY STEAM DECK IN DESKTOP MODE!
But in Desktop mode the Steam button does absolutely nothing while a game is running.
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"Freedom of Windows" "Power of Xbox" Good stuff. We should make some more.
"From a brand you can trust"
"Pro gamers choose ... "
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It the Zune for gaming.
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Apparently it will come to all desktops.
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Everyone that is scared they can't play the most popular online games on their handheld. So theoretically a massive demographic according to research (most pc gamers play older live service titles) done but whether they would want a gaming handheld is a different question.
There's apparently a chunk of gamers who can't leave Windows because of GamePass. However, I don't know whether it's a significant portion.
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"Freedom of Windows" "Power of Xbox" Good stuff. We should make some more.
"From a brand you can trust"
"Pro gamers choose ... "
"Powered by Copilot and Game pass"Well gamepass on a cheap handheld doesn't sound so bad tbh
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The one thing I took away from it was that the Xbox-button acts as alt tab. I WANT THE SAME FROM MY STEAM DECK IN DESKTOP MODE!
But in Desktop mode the Steam button does absolutely nothing while a game is running.
I guess you could remap them in desktop mode? I haven't tried but it should be possible.
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The one thing I took away from it was that the Xbox-button acts as alt tab. I WANT THE SAME FROM MY STEAM DECK IN DESKTOP MODE!
But in Desktop mode the Steam button does absolutely nothing while a game is running.
Why do you use desktop mode for a game?
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Just install Bazzite on it.
Then buy the rog ally.
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The performance advantage comes from the fact that there isn't a full-fat desktop running concurrently with the game. You're booting directly into Steam.
Performance isn't noticably worse in desktop mode on the Steam Deck compared to gaming mode. Windows is just full of bloat and has a trash power scheduler.
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Why do you use desktop mode for a game?
Remote play for whatever reason works far better in desktop mode
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Apparently it will come to all desktops.
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Then buy the rog ally.
They pretty clearly said they liked this form factor, which is quite different from a standard ROG Ally? I strongly doubt it's going to have a locked down bootloader, so any firmware differences should be worked out fairly quickly by the Bazzite team et. al.
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As per Microsoft, they apparently saved 2 GBs of RAM by preventing productivity apps (bloat) from loading in their Big Picture mode. Now, it's another entirely different thing about how they are handling CPU/VRAM for the games. Let's see how that goes.
There was a Youtuber who showed that Windows is bloated, not because of background apps, but because of not using CPU properly (incorrect governor settings). The Youtuber used a script to set it right and windows got a boost in battery life. This kind of makes sense because I've seen none of the "bloat-free" Windows ISOs provide a significant performance boost over the standard OS.
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They pretty clearly said they liked this form factor, which is quite different from a standard ROG Ally? I strongly doubt it's going to have a locked down bootloader, so any firmware differences should be worked out fairly quickly by the Bazzite team et. al.
Maybe, but this is basically a thicker back which can be added as 3rd party accessory, but if the price won't be more than 50 euros / dollars more than the normal one it maybe worth it.
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Maybe, but this is basically a thicker back which can be added as 3rd party accessory, but if the price won't be more than 50 euros / dollars more than the normal one it maybe worth it.
No, it very much is not just a thicker back. This comes with the next generation Z2 and Z2 Extreme chips.
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I saw that it's a trimmed down version of windows so I'm interested in giving it a chance. Who knows, maybe we will be able to install said trimmed down version on regular hardware which would be interesting.
