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a harry potter fan's guide to navigating pride month

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  • bizza@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

    That it doesn't disgust you to consume the media of an open fascist using her money to attempt a genocide is highly suspect

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    I don't think it's terribly suspect. What are you even suspicious of? People experience disgust in different ways. I can watch Kevin Spacey and not be disgusted, even if he's a piece of shit. And I like Tarantino movies too, even though he's also, ah, suspect.

    As far as I'm concerned, the old J.K. Rowling was murdered and replaced by a bodysnatcher who gets the royalties from her work. Engaging with the fandom and paying for new HP stuff is bad, but otherwise let's not police people who just want to enjoy their childhood favourite thing.

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    • bizza@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

      Bro, this whole entire thread is about pointing out all the flaws in JK's writing, and how her bigotries have always been embedded in her stories, outside of the fact that she's incredibly transphobic, and currently funding a hate campaign, and you're calling not consuming this specific media an "unattainable moral standing."

      No, I don't think I need to work on reading comprehension. I think sea lions and goal poster movers need to get banned and removed from the fediverse completely, like the parasite that you are.

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      Yeah you really struggle with reading comprehension. Good grief.

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      • T [email protected]

        Yeah you really struggle with reading comprehension. Good grief.

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        "Good grief," what are you 60 years old?? Come back when you have an actual point to make, nutsack.

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        • bizza@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

          The goblins are Jewish caricatures first and foremost, and most obviously. I thought we as a society knew that most portrayals of goblins have always been antisemitic, but that's aside from every other character in HP being some kind of stereotype metaphor. There's a reason that became a meme, and is still a meme. i.e., stuff like, "JK has announced that her newest character, John Gayman, is a gay man!" for a rough example.

          I don't particularly agree with every single thing listed here, but these are some more examples to mull over: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/kaxw28/i_made_a_list_of_examples_of_racism_prejudice_and/

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          Yeahh, people talk about the goblins being anti-semitic but honestly they don't seem any more anti-semitic to me than typical goblins. Like, yeah, goblins in fantasy are all vaguely anti-semitic, sure. Wato from star wars is way more anti-semitic.

          What gets me is Seamus Finnigan. That guy's a walking stereotype.

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          • R [email protected]

            Go read Le Guin's Earthsea books instead, which are genuinely better written, and LeGuin was a great person who wrote a lot of socially progressive literature. Not to mention that it hasn't been turned into a fucking corporate media franchise like LOTR.

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            Her books are timeless

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            • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

              a very famous Austrian

              schwarzenegger is a famous austrian. your painter there was an infamous shitbag. know the difference!

              lol love it when hitler fans out themselves

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              Either way, you'd be lying if u said his artwork his shit.

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                I understand the sentiment. But then I'd say: buy used media.

                As long as she doesn't get any money

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                Or ..... Sail the high seas.

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                  I think these hard line stances do more harm than good.

                  My wife and I are active in not supporting any new things, but to talk about how you think it's morally wrong to even talk about the franchise is going to alienate a ton of people.

                  I feel fine talking about it, and the memories I had with it. Because everyone I surround myself with is completely aligned that Harry Potter was meaningful when we were kids and also JK Rowling is a complete fucking asshat.

                  This sort of purity testing has got to stop. If mentioning the name of Harry Potter marks someone as a transphobe who is equally as bad as politicians actively stripping them of their rights... The movement will never build a coalition.

                  Saying that financially supporting JK Rowling is actively harming the trans community is a reasonable argument. Saying that talking about Harry Potter, even if you note that JK Rowling sucks, makes you an outright transphobe is not reasonable to me.

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                  Too bad, trans people are more important than your pottertreats. If trans people say something is hurting them just stop doing it. Don't get into the nitty gritty of "how much harm does it do really?" make as wide a distance as you can to it.

                  As for this specific instance its not even hard to see how it is harming trans people: talking about hp keeps it in the spotlight which generats more sales.

                  Why wouldn't you purge the franchise that funds trans genocide from your life??

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                  • M [email protected]

                    Too bad, trans people are more important than your pottertreats. If trans people say something is hurting them just stop doing it. Don't get into the nitty gritty of "how much harm does it do really?" make as wide a distance as you can to it.

                    As for this specific instance its not even hard to see how it is harming trans people: talking about hp keeps it in the spotlight which generats more sales.

                    Why wouldn't you purge the franchise that funds trans genocide from your life??

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                    This kind of hysteria is amusing.

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                    • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

                      https://cyberpunk.lol/@vantablack/114609145408193505

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                      Trans people: "this is doing harm to us please stop!"
                      Cis: "Is it really though? Asking people to quit their pottertreats is just alienating stop being so dramatic!"

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                        JK Rowling is probably the most influential anti-trans activist.

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                        The president of the United States is a pretty open anti trans activist and has made deliberate efforts to use being anti trans as a way to whip up his base

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                        • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                          That's still boosting the cultural impact of her work. In some cases piracy increases total sales.

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                          It’s basically impossible to be perfect, pirating the work stops the money from going to jk Rowling which therefore stops it from going to anti trans groups.

                          Shopping at Home Depot hurts trans people
                          Using Amazon hurts trans people
                          Shopping at basically any big box store hurts trans people

                          They are a heavily oppressed group and you aren’t able to live your life perfectly so don’t sweat pirating a game

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                            JK Rowling is probably the most influential anti-trans activist.

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                            Yeah I've got to firmly agree on that one. Her fame, and the fact that she created such a beloved franchise, gives her a lot of influence. Most people haven't heard of the likes of say, Posie Parker, especially outside of the UK.

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                            • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              You don't need to stop doing any of this.

                              Just pirate all of it.

                              That's what I did.

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                              That's what I told a friend who asked if she should read enders game. Get it from the library or steal it. Orson Scott Card doesn't deserve your money because he's a shitty person.

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                              • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

                                https://cyberpunk.lol/@vantablack/114609145408193505

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                                I’ll never. Ever. Understand being rich enough to enjoy the rest of your life and choosing to spend that wealth harming innocent people.

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Go read Le Guin's Earthsea books instead, which are genuinely better written, and LeGuin was a great person who wrote a lot of socially progressive literature. Not to mention that it hasn't been turned into a fucking corporate media franchise like LOTR.

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                                  I mean there is a a terrible TV adaptation starring Iceman and Lana Lang as well as a beautiful but boring Ghibli movie, but I agree that Earthsea is amazing.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    The president of the United States is a pretty open anti trans activist and has made deliberate efforts to use being anti trans as a way to whip up his base

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                                    I don't think he's as influential though. He has a wide-ranging influence over his base, but they already are full of hatred. She's able to say the quiet parts quietly a lot better, and I think is more likely to radicalise new people to her cause.

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                                      Too bad, trans people are more important than your pottertreats. If trans people say something is hurting them just stop doing it. Don't get into the nitty gritty of "how much harm does it do really?" make as wide a distance as you can to it.

                                      As for this specific instance its not even hard to see how it is harming trans people: talking about hp keeps it in the spotlight which generats more sales.

                                      Why wouldn't you purge the franchise that funds trans genocide from your life??

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                                      Amazing how you people can't even read a full post before having your aneurysm about trans allys not being pure enough for you

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                                      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                        Just pirate all of it.

                                        how can you enjoy it though? like, don't you get disgusted knowing you're consuming the product of a transphobe? fuckin gross

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                                        No, frankly viewing anything I try to do for leisure through that lens sounds exhausting and depressing. Just do what you can to avoid financially supporting it, stealing it is fine.

                                        I don't even particularly like Harry Potter either

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                                        • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                                          I don't think he's as influential though. He has a wide-ranging influence over his base, but they already are full of hatred. She's able to say the quiet parts quietly a lot better, and I think is more likely to radicalise new people to her cause.

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                                          I personally haven’t heard anyone go from being neutral to anti trans from jk Rowling bringing up a new perspective but instead have heard people from both the right and the left criticize her. Trump on the other hand radicalized the average bush era Republican into the MAGA cult we see today that is unafraid to openly show hate

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