No but seriously. Why the gaps?
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As someone from Europe I can guarantee you that 5-10cm (2-4") at the bottom and 30cm (12") at the top with almost no gap between the door and wall are by far enough to not suffocate. Maybe put a vent in the ceiling for good measure.
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Man, reminds me of the old WWII barracks, open shitters.
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Why didn't you try knocking? Knock twice 2 times, with a few seconds pause in between, if no response, then you can try the door. Going straight to looking into the gap is ... creepy imo.
Edit: this was in reply to "The only way to know was to look in the gap.". And no it wasn't. Knock for fucks sake, have some manners.
The locks were installed in such a way that if you pulled the door a little, it would open. (So a discreet soft pull on the door was not a good way of determining occupancy.)
Maybe because of that?
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The locks were installed in such a way that if you pulled the door a little, it would open. (So a discreet soft pull on the door was not a good way of determining occupancy.)
Maybe because of that?
Starting with pulling on the door is already impolite imo. If there is no visual cue as to the occupancy of the room, then the first thing one should do is knock. If the light is off or the occupancy signal says it's free, then sure, try the handle. Otherwise knock first, give the person who is shitting there a chance to reply with "occupied" or to knock back. But looking through gaps or trying if the door opens with the handle and then going "oops sorry", please no.
Same goes up for offices, meeting spaces, bedrooms etc, when the door is closed and it could be occupied, always knock before attempting to enter. Less bad when someone does it, but still, one could just knock.
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I feel like you don't need that much intimacy when pissing but maybe that's just me.
I feel like you don't need that much intimacy when pissing but maybe that's just me.
Who can say?
Me and Slim and Frank were just discussing that over a group trough piss, at the stadium, yesterday.
We agreed that it is pretty intimate.
Carl seemed uncomfortable that we were talking so loudly about it, but those hand dryers are pretty loud, so we had to speak up to be heard.
::: spoiler Admission and further gross exaggeration
(And no, this didn't happen, of course.Because, at the stadium, most folks stand just inside the bathroom entrance and just piss generally inward from the edge of the floor stickiness zone.
Most people find it difficult to even hit the side of the troughs from outside the sticky floor zone.)
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maybe you can't make the doors fit the stalls properly because you don't use the metric system.
maybe you can't make the doors fit the stalls properly because you don't use the metric system.
It would be delightful if this phrase started appearing on affected bathroom walls.
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Even worse are the urinals without dividers.
They should replace dividers with mirrors so we can look at other men's dicks while pissing
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The reality is that every American has experienced this for their entire lives at this point. The actual popular opinion is "I don't actually care because every public bathroom I have been in since the 40s is like this."
More like:
”I don't actually care because I never use a public bathroom, as long as my health allows, just as the building owners intended."
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Occasionally I hear people argue it's so you can catch IV drug users without bursting in. Personally I think it's that capitalism cares not for your happiness and it's fractionally cheaper to have shitty doors, and so that's what people do
I think it's because bathrooms are cost, and so they got enshitified early to discourage costumers from using them.
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I've heard every excuse, from making sure people aren't doing drugs, jerking off, or having sex in there. The assumption being that if people are given total privacy they'll be up to "no good" in the bathroom stall. I don't know if any of that is true, but I once went to the men's room at a big-city library, and discovered the stall walls were only 4 feet tall. (If that was meant to prevent drug use it wasn't working, there were a couple dudes in there doing the fenty lean, but I didn't see anybody fucking, at least.)
I don’t know if any of that is true,
As someone who worked retail for many years when I was younger, I can assure you that it is absolutely true. People get up to insane shit in public restrooms.
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To be fair, using the decimal system for everything was the No1 mistake of the french revolution. A duodecimal system would have been so much nicer.
A duodecimal system would have been so much nicer.
Everyone loves a library!
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They should replace dividers with mirrors so we can look at other men's dicks while pissing
Or magnifying glass then nobody would mind the possibility.
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It's so hard to even conceptualize if it would be better. A few common divisions would be, but is it easier than a decimal system? Would switching to one ever not feel weird if you previously learnt the decimal system?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]As with all systematic changes like that, the point is more about the impact on the future generations.
Thought to be honest, hexadecimal doesn't feel weird to me as someone who frequently analyzes hexdumps. I'd wager it's totally something you can learn.
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I am, of course, not joking in any way.
I am, of course, an environmental storytelling toilet skeleton in a European bathroom.
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You're all complaining about the gaps, but I once walked into a bathroom which had 5ft doors. The moment I walked in I locked eyes with a guy taking a dump.
It's so hard for people to make meaningful connection, these days, in our modern, tech-driven society.
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As an American, experiencing European toilet stalls was one of the first tangible experiences where I was like “woah we are definitely doing it wrong”. Thanks, uh…Europe.
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As with all systematic changes like that, the point is more about the impact on the future generations.
Thought to be honest, hexadecimal doesn't feel weird to me as someone who frequently analyzes hexdumps. I'd wager it's totally something you can learn.
yeah we apparently found our digits easier than knuckles when counting. it probably helped that it's easier to communicate numbers with full digits than pointing parts of them.
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No its not a profit saving thing. It makes no difference cost wise to save a few cms of wood. Its intentionally designed that way. Go to any other capitalist country than America and you won't see gaps.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It makes no difference cost wise to save a few cms of wood.
The cost savings is not only in materials. For manufacturing, lower quality materials and larger tolerances. Time to install and repair is lower because of how open the design is. Time to clean is lower because you can just soak the floor and mop without worrying about each stalls' corners.
Brutal efficiency at the cost of comfort and privacy is what capitalism is all about. The US is just used to it and somehow also incredibly puritanical.
That said, efficiency isn't a bad thing. There are some countries with some bathrooms that don't have stalls - legit indoor public bathrooms where you just squat over a hole or urinals that are just one long wide trough. It's about what you are used to.
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They should replace dividers with mirrors so we can look at other men's dicks while pissing
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As an American, experiencing European toilet stalls was one of the first tangible experiences where I was like “woah we are definitely doing it wrong”. Thanks, uh…Europe.
Hold up.. you mean to tell me that there were stalls available for pooping even though as an American I've been taught my whole life that those gaps exist so people don't do sex in them?!!?!?
