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Trump urges Americans to work harder despite spending 22% of term golfing

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  • tonytins@pawb.socialT [email protected]
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    Well yeah

    Pensions are fucked globally

    Not a single one of you will see any money from it, so better get working

    Even better, you guys will probably need to extend the pension age up to 75 or so

    Prepare for fun times

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      #72

      No thanks, I'm good.

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        wrong

        given he only complains about juneteenth, he is saying that black people should work harder.

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        Yeah, his comment was most definitely targeted.

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        • saik0shinigami@lemmy.saik0.comS [email protected]

          Biden golfed a total of nine times.

          Biden & Obama weren't a golfer though... so looking at just golf is dumb for them.

          https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/biden-took-off-577-days-in-4-years-tops-modern-era-presidents/

          Biden’s out-of-office ratio far surpasses time off taken by Trump — who spent 26% of his first term away from Washington, D.C. — 381 of his 1,461 days in office, records show.

          Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama vacationed for just 11% of their two-term presidencies — and workhorse Jimmy Carter took only 79 days of breaks, accounting for 5% of his single term in office.

          Obama was low, Biden was stupid high. Trump is in the middle here.

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          The article discussed golf. I replied with golf. It’s apples to apples. You want to butwhatabout the rest of the time? Ok.

          Fuck the NY Post. Just another sensationalist rag. If you want to be taken seriously, find a source that isn’t a right wing mouthpiece.

          In contrast,The Washington Post, which used White House pool reports, reports that Biden spent 256 days on vacation or at one of his homes in Delaware through May 22, 2023.

          Former President Donald Trump spent a little over a quarter of his presidency, around 380 of his1,461 days in office on personal trips.

          Trump's time out of office earned a of media attention because he spent most of his time away, around 250 days, at properties he owned -- and would therefore financially benefit from by his presence -- during his presidency.

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          However, Snopes comprehensively analyzed the former president's public calendar, research from his administration and pool reports — detailed daily dispatches from the White House press corps tracking Biden's movements — and found that the RNC's claim was inaccurate. It is difficult to define what a "vacation" is for a president, given that a president is never away from duties. Therefore, Snopes determined how many days he was in a vacation setting.

          Based on this definition, Biden spent 117 or 118 full days of his 1,461-day presidency (Jan. 20, 2021 to Jan. 20, 2025) on vacation, or about 8% of his presidency. He also spent 66 days, about 4.5% of his presidency, partially in a vacation setting.

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          • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

            The article discussed golf. I replied with golf. It’s apples to apples. You want to butwhatabout the rest of the time? Ok.

            Fuck the NY Post. Just another sensationalist rag. If you want to be taken seriously, find a source that isn’t a right wing mouthpiece.

            In contrast,The Washington Post, which used White House pool reports, reports that Biden spent 256 days on vacation or at one of his homes in Delaware through May 22, 2023.

            Former President Donald Trump spent a little over a quarter of his presidency, around 380 of his1,461 days in office on personal trips.

            Trump's time out of office earned a of media attention because he spent most of his time away, around 250 days, at properties he owned -- and would therefore financially benefit from by his presence -- during his presidency.

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            However, Snopes comprehensively analyzed the former president's public calendar, research from his administration and pool reports — detailed daily dispatches from the White House press corps tracking Biden's movements — and found that the RNC's claim was inaccurate. It is difficult to define what a "vacation" is for a president, given that a president is never away from duties. Therefore, Snopes determined how many days he was in a vacation setting.

            Based on this definition, Biden spent 117 or 118 full days of his 1,461-day presidency (Jan. 20, 2021 to Jan. 20, 2025) on vacation, or about 8% of his presidency. He also spent 66 days, about 4.5% of his presidency, partially in a vacation setting.

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            #75

            So then you admit that

            Biden golfed a total of nine times.

            Is a bullshit comparison then?

            Edit: Interesting that you trust snopes.

            https://www.allsides.com/news-source/snopes

            NY post is effective the same , but other direction. So if my source is unusable then so is yours.
            https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-post

            But still... your source says way more than 9 days out of office... and certainly not all that far away from trumps numbers at best.

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            • icastfist@programming.devI [email protected]

              With extra chicken, please

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              And a side of roast pig

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              • saik0shinigami@lemmy.saik0.comS [email protected]

                So then you admit that

                Biden golfed a total of nine times.

                Is a bullshit comparison then?

                Edit: Interesting that you trust snopes.

                https://www.allsides.com/news-source/snopes

                NY post is effective the same , but other direction. So if my source is unusable then so is yours.
                https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-post

                But still... your source says way more than 9 days out of office... and certainly not all that far away from trumps numbers at best.

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                Lol, amazingly selective reading where you deliberately skipped past the “apples to apples” statement. I also included two separate sources, which named where and how they got the info, and offered alternative interpretation of the numbers unlike the NYP. Which you obviously spent zero time reading. Just in case you pulled the “your site sucks” bs without any refutation of the actual facts as presented. You butwhatabouted right past everything of substance and offered nothing in return. That’s called “bad faith” discussion, and I’m not wasting time on you. Blocked.

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                • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                  Lol, amazingly selective reading where you deliberately skipped past the “apples to apples” statement. I also included two separate sources, which named where and how they got the info, and offered alternative interpretation of the numbers unlike the NYP. Which you obviously spent zero time reading. Just in case you pulled the “your site sucks” bs without any refutation of the actual facts as presented. You butwhatabouted right past everything of substance and offered nothing in return. That’s called “bad faith” discussion, and I’m not wasting time on you. Blocked.

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                  My sole and only point was exactly what I said, which was that both Biden and Obama weren't golf players. Comparing a specific activity was disingenuous and you did specifically that.

                  I literally just grabbed the first fucking link I saw because the point was that Biden was out way more than 9 days/times. Your source proved that. My point is done. The rest is in your own fucking head. I don't care what source it is. You're going out of your way being obtuse about how you specifically compare shit.

                  You call me bad faith, your original post was outright a lie.

                  Edit: Oh and you complain that I didn't read the NYP... except it calls out George Bush for taking a bunch of time at his estate.

                  George W. Bush spent 1,020 – or 35% — of his 2,922 days in office away from DC in his two terms, including plenty of time at his Texas ranch, according to tallies by the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

                  But see, I did read it and you clearly didn't. The numbers specifically don't matter. It's the fact that comparing Trumps primary leisure activity and comparing it to other presidents who don't do that activity is just... dumb. Should be comparing actual apples to apple. Would be comparing all time used, or all time used on primary recreation activity. Golf vs golf is stupid, because the others didn't golf. But see I already explained that and you're just too dense to actually understand the point.

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                    God only got one day of rest, you deserve more rest than God?

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                    I had a pre-MAGA family member say to me "holidays are for Christians, you should have to work!" This is the level of intellect that will control our lives for the foreseeable future.

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                      Well yeah

                      Pensions are fucked globally

                      Not a single one of you will see any money from it, so better get working

                      Even better, you guys will probably need to extend the pension age up to 75 or so

                      Prepare for fun times

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                      France revolted violently for less... and again after Charlie X started stripping away the Napoleonic rights.

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                        Damn it's been a while since a political nottheonion was actually a good nottheonion

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                          meh, I did the quiet quit thing a long time ago. not working harder without a nice raise. I'm urging Americans to work less. go on! take that day off! you can do it!

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                          Americans should definitely take Voting Day off, to maybe vote.

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                            I thought the amount of time he golfs would be higher. Every time he golfs we pay the taco when he stays at his properties.

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                            I would argue that it's actually FAR better for USA and the world, that he golf as much as possible.
                            He doesn't fuck as much stuff up when he's elsewhere amused......

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                              Incentivize it, you living malediction. Expand healthcare to allow more hours, increase overtime pay, make it easier to start a business, personally turn a few billionaires into pulp within a massive stadium housing solely seats, cameras, screens, a long spool of rope, and a single woodchipper. Frankly, these aren’t big asks.

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                              For real. You'd think the black hole of failure that Drumph and his billionaire cabinet are, would be the death knell for the fucking prosperity bible. Woodchip them all !!

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                              • reverendender@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

                                I think one of those industrial grinders that grind up engines and stuff would be even better. Just run it at extra slow speed as you lower them in.

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                                Run some salt rocks through first, so the blades are nice and blunt, chipped and salty. Salt because we don't want to wait for them to get rusty.....

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                                • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                                  Frankly, I'd really rather that the Irish Star not encourage him to be spending more time making policy.

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                                  Exactly this. It's better for the world if he plays golf more.....

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                                  • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    No, I don’t think so.

                                    Biden golfed a total of nine times.

                                    Obama spent 3% of his time golfing.

                                    Trump, 22-25%, depending on the source.

                                    This is crazy shit, a dictator stating people should work harder while spending 1/4th of his time on the course. The presidency isn’f supposed to get weekends off.

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                                    It's also the fact that Drumph whined incessantly about Obama playing golf, and vowed that he himself would be working too hard to ever play golf.....
                                    Ironically though, we are all better off the more Drumph golfs rather than "works"......

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                                    • wr5@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                      Agreed, but the person I'm responding to made a point about weeks vs. weekends.

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                                      Yes I suppose, just like anything, a nuance here would be whether or not we expect a person of such political authority to be able to have weekends at all.

                                      On one hand, they're still a person working a job and no one should be working 365 days a year
                                      On the other, the societal cost, in terms of income tax covering travel and security costs, of having a President that travels every weekend is a bit much.

                                      If the President was only golfing on the weekends, and wasn't charging the government to golf at his own clubs, then this whole thing of him taking leisure every weekend would be a harder thing to argue against without getting into that whole administration work life balance discussion.

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                                        I had a pre-MAGA family member say to me "holidays are for Christians, you should have to work!" This is the level of intellect that will control our lives for the foreseeable future.

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                                        It's a distinct lack of understanding given that Jews also have a sabbath day and so does Islam (sorta, it's a day of increased prayer but not literally a day of res) literally every Abrahamic religion I can think of has a sabbath.

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                                          Honestly he should golf more

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