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  • early_to_risa@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]
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    why label and tribalism. just be you and do you things and if that intersects with someone else or not, who cares, you're just you as your true self. Leaving that space to find someone is silly nonsense that probably won't work out well because that person is not the real you. Pursue your curiosities until it takes you to your happy place

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      But what if you improve yourself and then become a better person for nothing? 😛

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      Then you'll be more valuable to your corporate masters. Everybody wins!

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        If anyone hasn't seen Femcel spaces, you could always go and browse reddit.com/r/femaledatingstrategy

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          Incels hasn't been about that in a long time. It's already evolved into "self-improvement" by adopting far-right extremist ideology. In particular that of being a hyper-masculine bigotted conservative man. Their underlying theory of world is still the same. Love is fake and women cheat and leave you taking all your money unless you become the strong man chad and dominate her. Instead of the pit of self loathing based on the premise that everyone is out to get you. You become the biggest alpha over every other guy. Fundamentally the ideology is the flip side of the same coin. It's a very dark misanthropic view of the world.

          It's surely been some sort of cult brainwashing. Tear guys down with crab bucket mentality. Then build them up according to their doctrine.

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            "Misery loves company."

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              Damn. I know the community tab here says I'm not suppose to agree with anon, but damn, I have to

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              This was a test. You failed.

              And by that, I mean you passed.

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                The same is true on a political level which is a crab bucket when they tell you that things can't improve and that you shouldn't even have any hopes.

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                • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                  why label and tribalism. just be you and do you things and if that intersects with someone else or not, who cares, you're just you as your true self. Leaving that space to find someone is silly nonsense that probably won't work out well because that person is not the real you. Pursue your curiosities until it takes you to your happy place

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                  Idk, if "doing you" means never leaving home, you're not getting chances to actually find someone that you intersect with. You do need to make a conscious effort to put yourself out there so you have those chances, and you should put some effort into improving your confidence to maximize your chances. Don't change who you are to please someone, but do shower and put on a clean shirt.

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                    If anyone hasn't seen Femcel spaces, you could always go and browse reddit.com/r/femaledatingstrategy

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                    Which is why the Lemmy equivalent has banned that type of thinking/posts.

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                      Incels hasn't been about that in a long time. It's already evolved into "self-improvement" by adopting far-right extremist ideology. In particular that of being a hyper-masculine bigotted conservative man. Their underlying theory of world is still the same. Love is fake and women cheat and leave you taking all your money unless you become the strong man chad and dominate her. Instead of the pit of self loathing based on the premise that everyone is out to get you. You become the biggest alpha over every other guy. Fundamentally the ideology is the flip side of the same coin. It's a very dark misanthropic view of the world.

                      It's surely been some sort of cult brainwashing. Tear guys down with crab bucket mentality. Then build them up according to their doctrine.

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                      They took "self-improvement" to mean physical health while completely ignoring mental and emotional health.

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                      • crazi_man@europe.pubC [email protected]

                        If anyone hasn't seen Femcel spaces, you could always go and browse reddit.com/r/femaledatingstrategy

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                        It's about the same as incel shit really. You'd think it would get banned like incel stuff is, but it's tolerated because men are not a protected class.

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                          Incels hasn't been about that in a long time. It's already evolved into "self-improvement" by adopting far-right extremist ideology. In particular that of being a hyper-masculine bigotted conservative man. Their underlying theory of world is still the same. Love is fake and women cheat and leave you taking all your money unless you become the strong man chad and dominate her. Instead of the pit of self loathing based on the premise that everyone is out to get you. You become the biggest alpha over every other guy. Fundamentally the ideology is the flip side of the same coin. It's a very dark misanthropic view of the world.

                          It's surely been some sort of cult brainwashing. Tear guys down with crab bucket mentality. Then build them up according to their doctrine.

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                          There are some women who want exactly that kind of man. OTOH, even around the reddest part of Florida, most women put something on their dating profile to reject those men. Dated more than ever during the pandemic, yeah, weird, I know, but here's what I saw and heard.

                          • Profiles outright saying MAGA can fuck off.
                          • Profiles saying either they're "not political" or "no politics". That's a dog whistle for no MAGA (more on that).
                          • Plainly stated liberal views, again, no MAGA.
                          • Laughingly told one woman before we went out that I was pretty redneck. "Uh, just how redneck?" "I fucking loathe Trump if that's what you mean." "OH! Whew. OK."
                          • More than one date told me guys either went OFF about Trump or went off on THEM about Trump, on the first date.
                          • Either they gently probed me on politics or flat out refused to speak of it, at least until they knew for sure I wasn't MAGA. See note about about first dates.

                          Despite being a middle-aged white guy, my looks and profile were clearly, to me anyway, liberal. Did quite well! LOL, friends and neighbors were making fun of me regarding all the women in and out the house. (That wasn't on purpose, most just didn't work out.) As I said, there were a handful of profiles saying "conservatives only, no liberals". Given the politics of the region, those were shockingly rare.

                          I can only imagine that going red ain't working out so well for incels. And the downward spiral continues.

                          EDIT: I worked hard on the meme. Please clap.

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                            I mean, there's nothing wrong with improving yourself for the sake of improving yourself.

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                            Robots arms it is

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                            • quentincallaghan@sopuli.xyzQ [email protected]

                              "Misery loves company."

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                              Stephen King's Misery 2

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                                Damn. I know the community tab here says I'm not suppose to agree with anon, but damn, I have to

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                                This tab seems to be written for the mod to deflect accusation of supporting the Lemmy-unapproved dark sides of 4chan that may come up in green texts.

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                                  But what if you improve yourself and then become a better person for nothing? 😛

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                                  Surprise, surprise, you reached Nirvana.

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                                    The same is true on a political level which is a crab bucket when they tell you that things can't improve and that you shouldn't even have any hopes.

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                                    Whenever there’s a post about a protest, or a politician actually works to block a Trump bill, there’s always someone who pops into the comments to go “iT wOn’T cHaNgE aNyThInG.”

                                    It’s pretty clear who’s never taken any sort of political action before in their lives. Those that participate in activism know that change doesn’t happen in one big event, but momentum snowballs over time. Discouraging people who put effort into change only works to empower those who oppress us.

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                                      Damn. I know the community tab here says I'm not suppose to agree with anon, but damn, I have to

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                                      You... bothered to read the rules... in a 4chan focused community?

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                                        You... bothered to read the rules... in a 4chan focused community?

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                                        Yes

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                                          I would even say don't worry too much about self-improvement. It's a vague concept that encourages you to be perpetually dissatisfied (possibly to sell you stuff).

                                          You can always be satisfied with who you are. Remember how Mr. Rogers likes you just the way you are? You can extend that kindness to yourself. Once you've done that, then you are in the right headspace to lose some weight or improve your income or whatever.

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