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How can we make the Fediverse more positive and wholesome?

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  • F [email protected]

    When you've been shown facts that contradict your argument, concede politely. People will respect you for it. In fact they'll probably respect you more than if you go down endless chains of trying to save face.

    Remember, this should go both ways. There will be times when people concede to you, and other times when you need to concede.

    I don't think it needs to take very many people doing this to create a snowball effect where it becomes the common way to debate.

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    We should upvote to the moon any comment that concedes their original viewpoint.

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      we require men to read a single feminism book, just one /j

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      The Will To Change by bell hooks. It was the first time ever I felt seen as a human by a feminist writer.

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        I'll go for the technical side: having a distributed accounts manager so you only need one account to use every aspect of the Fediverse.

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        Could this be an XY problem? Maybe instead of having several accounts and a way to log in everywhere easily, the problem is lacking interoperability? It's hard to follow lemmy from mastodon, for example, but what if that was easy? Then you wouldn't need both a lemmy account and a mastodon account, one would be enough to use different aspects of the fediverse.

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        • C [email protected]

          There's two subreddits I really miss: AskScience and AskHistorians. I was a regular and flaired contributor to AskScience, but its super helpful to generate a response when there's a good question. It would feel weird opining on a random science topic that I come up with. And I loved the well sourced AskHistorians posts. When I do see a c/AskHistorian post on Lemmy the responses are very low effort

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          Yup, that sub has high standard. You basically have to write in Chicago style. (academic standard for writing in history) I wanted to contribute one time but didn't want to spend hours writing.

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          • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

            You are the most wholesome user i see around here, I love your posts lol =D

            If anyone's fit answering this question, it's you

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            I appreciate that. It does take effort. It's not like I'm an especially positive or happy person, but for building community here, I feel I need to put special attention into what I say and how I say it.

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            • G [email protected]

              I know you're trolling but I'm vicious like this.

              *.ml

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              programming.dev

              sh.it.just.works

              I have ran into more fascist supporting shit heels from those instances than anywhere else.

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              programming.dev, the instance known for ultranationalism, authoritarianism, belief in a natural social hierarchy, hate for communism and socialism

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                It would be cool if people stopped thinking the only ideologies are their ideology and fascism

                There are ideologies that are bad that arent far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist

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                  we require men to read a single feminism book, just one /j

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                  pls drop the /j 🥺

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                  • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]
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                    we seem to be popular with reddit users that were banned from reddit, which on average seems to translate to less than wholesome behavior - so maybe lemmy's whole reddit-alternative branding works against us that way.

                    maybe developing a distinct UI so it's not just a reddit clone, and directing features in a way that is appealing more to particular communities or people we wish to attract would be a good idea, rather than trying to directly replace reddit as a whole?

                    for example, attracting academics by supporting built-in LaTeX syntax rather than requiring a browser extension

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                    • P [email protected]

                      Could this be an XY problem? Maybe instead of having several accounts and a way to log in everywhere easily, the problem is lacking interoperability? It's hard to follow lemmy from mastodon, for example, but what if that was easy? Then you wouldn't need both a lemmy account and a mastodon account, one would be enough to use different aspects of the fediverse.

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                      this sorta defeats the purpose of decentralization...

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                      • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneD [email protected]

                        pls drop the /j 🥺

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                        wish I could, unfortunately they're allergic to critical thinking

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                          wish I could, unfortunately they're allergic to critical thinking

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                          maybe we could give them allergy shots? in the form of bell hooks?

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                          • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                            "I am angry entirely for personal pleasure, not for profit."

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                            "I could be arguing in my spare time"

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                              Quit artificially upvoting US politics?

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                                It would be cool if people stopped thinking the only ideologies are their ideology and fascism

                                There are ideologies that are bad that arent far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist

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                                Yeah, I agree 100% but this also goes for the left. The tankies on some Lemmy instances are so vocal that it makes me appriciate the normal left more

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                                  Let's talk about politics a whole hell of a lot less. Yes, things are awful and insane, but there is good stuff to discuss.

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                                  • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneD [email protected]

                                    this sorta defeats the purpose of decentralization...

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                                    How do you mean? To me a network is decentralized if there isn't one controlling company or organization. In the fediverse, I can set up my own instance of mastodon/lemmy/honk/whatever. The fact that I can use honk to follow people on mastodon and interact with them in a smooth way is interoperability to me. I don't need both a honk account and a mastodon account. This is a good thing imho. I can choose which software to run, or which home server to join, and still interact with people using different servers.

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                                      Yeah, I agree 100% but this also goes for the left. The tankies on some Lemmy instances are so vocal that it makes me appriciate the normal left more

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                                      You and the person you're replying to are saying the same thing / agreeing

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                                        Generously start using CWs (Content warnings) as folks used to do in the early days of Fediverse.

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                                          i dont like wholesome anything, to me it is often infantalizing or saccharine

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