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Child labour with 10 years of experience, 'AI-native' accepting 250k lines of Cursor code

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  • H [email protected]

    Surely, Arno receives 10 times the salary, right?

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    He is getting paid $15.50/hr
    Which is the state minimum wage.

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    • broadfern@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

      In “eXpOsUrE” and “MaRkEt ExPeRiEnCe”

      100% this kid is getting just as fucked over as the rest of us, and because he’s young the corpos have a smidge more time to do so before he gets pissed off too.

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      An unpaid internist probably.

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      • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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        I fully believe this guy has no idea how horrific the things he's boasting about actually are.

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        • susaga@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

          I fully believe this guy has no idea how horrific the things he's boasting about actually are.

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          As is the usual on LinkedIn

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          • broadfern@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

            In “eXpOsUrE” and “MaRkEt ExPeRiEnCe”

            100% this kid is getting just as fucked over as the rest of us, and because he’s young the corpos have a smidge more time to do so before he gets pissed off too.

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            I saw a question posted recently asking what age everyone was when they learned that they weren't going to get any rewards for working extra hard. I guess in some work it's harder to see than in others.

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            • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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              I'm 8-10 years from retirement and I'm fine with this. I always knew younger, better coders will come along. Anyone holding on to their 90s or 00s coding skills... Well... Good luck with that.

              That, and this kid is still the very rare exception. I don't think he's representative of most 18 year olds.

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              • P [email protected]

                I'm 8-10 years from retirement and I'm fine with this. I always knew younger, better coders will come along. Anyone holding on to their 90s or 00s coding skills... Well... Good luck with that.

                That, and this kid is still the very rare exception. I don't think he's representative of most 18 year olds.

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                They're saying it's because he's using AI. They have 250k+ lines of cursor (LLM/AI) generated code in their codebase

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                  I built a website that uses ChatGPT API for no particular reason whatsoever. Can I slap AI-native on my resume?

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                  • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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                    ......sure?

                    This kid doesn't know what he's writing or why, he's just coaxing cursor to vomit up commits and apparently that's their only metric for success.

                    I work with AI tools and with people who are absolute top tier Cursor users and their shit is always broken. They iterate fast but they absolutely do not fully understand what they're producing. It's great for rolling out flashy UI quickly (apparently the only thing investors care about), then you watch it all go to shit the second you push because every update breaks everything in horrifying ways. It's like watching the early days of enterprise C++/Java where everything was spaghetti, but 100x worse.

                    I don't think this paradigm of AI is likely to rival a decent human developer, there needs to be a fundamental change in how the models work and how we use them. What were doing now is hoping quantity is somehow going to replace quality.

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                      "This younger person is better than you and will take your job" oh boy like that's something new that ceos have never said before.

                      This is an attempt to manipulate workers into accepting lower wages for longer hours. That's what "AI" is to them.

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                      • N [email protected]

                        I built a website that uses ChatGPT API for no particular reason whatsoever. Can I slap AI-native on my resume?

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                        You can slap anything on your resume if you can explain it in the interview.

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                        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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                          The more CEOs believe this, the more I will be able to demand in salary about 5 years from now.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            ......sure?

                            This kid doesn't know what he's writing or why, he's just coaxing cursor to vomit up commits and apparently that's their only metric for success.

                            I work with AI tools and with people who are absolute top tier Cursor users and their shit is always broken. They iterate fast but they absolutely do not fully understand what they're producing. It's great for rolling out flashy UI quickly (apparently the only thing investors care about), then you watch it all go to shit the second you push because every update breaks everything in horrifying ways. It's like watching the early days of enterprise C++/Java where everything was spaghetti, but 100x worse.

                            I don't think this paradigm of AI is likely to rival a decent human developer, there needs to be a fundamental change in how the models work and how we use them. What were doing now is hoping quantity is somehow going to replace quality.

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                            It's astounding how many lowlifes are using commit counts to measure impact. It's just throwing bisectability out the window and promoting stupid tactics for quick returns.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              They're saying it's because he's using AI. They have 250k+ lines of cursor (LLM/AI) generated code in their codebase

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                              Yep, understood. And I still don't think this is a common skill for most 18 year olds. But I'd like to know if this is more common than I realize.

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                                I kind of feel bad for the kid and hope he's actually learning something as he goes on.

                                If not he'll be a "AI-native" McDonalds employee after the bubble bursts.

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                                • H [email protected]

                                  Surely, Arno receives 10 times the salary, right?

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                                  He doesn't. And don't call me Shirley

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                                  • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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                                    Reality: he got a coworker's kid to sit there for a photoshoot, for this post. That photo looks staged as fuck.

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                                      boasting about child labour...Sir are you by any chance from Florida?

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                                      • I [email protected]

                                        I hope all the CEOs like this guy go hard all in on AI and prove to the world that it’s a sound business decision.

                                        And if they’re wrong, may they never complain about the hourly rates of contractors they have to call in to dig them out of the hole their AI dug for them.

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                                        guess how much people are gonna charge them for debugging 250K lines of AI code or better yet probably writing everything from scratch

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                                        • dekkia@this.doesnotcut.itD [email protected]

                                          I kind of feel bad for the kid and hope he's actually learning something as he goes on.

                                          If not he'll be a "AI-native" McDonalds employee after the bubble bursts.

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                                          "You're right, there is supposed to cheese on a cheeseburger. Please excuse my mistake“

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